How do I integrate \frac{s^3}{(s^2 + a^2)^3} from 0 to infinity?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral \(\int_0^{\infty} \frac{s^3}{(s^2 + a^2)^3} ds\), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically improper integrals and substitution techniques.

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  • Participants explore various substitution methods, including \(u = s^2 + a^2\) and \(s = a \tan(\theta)\). There are discussions on the correctness of the substitutions and the resulting expressions. Some participants question the evaluation of the integral and the handling of terms in the numerator and denominator.

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The discussion is active, with multiple participants providing insights and corrections to each other's approaches. There is a recognition of errors in the substitution and evaluation steps, and some participants express uncertainty about the results obtained from computational tools like WolframAlpha.

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Participants note the importance of the integral's value in a physical context, as well as the potential for confusion arising from different methods of evaluation. There is also mention of a typo that affected the calculations.

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Ok, so I need to evaluate this integral: \int_0^{\infty} \frac{s^3}{(s^2 + a^2)^3} ds
It seems evident that a substitution ought to do the trick. Let's try u = s^2 + a^2, so du = 2sds. Hence

\int_0^{\infty} \frac{s^3}{(s^2 + a^2)^3} ds <br /> = \frac{1}{2} \int_{a^2}^{\infty} \frac{u - a^2}{u^3} du<br /> = \frac{1}{2} \int_{a^2}^{\infty} \frac{1}{u^2} - \frac{a^2}{u^3} ds<br /> = \frac{1}{2} \left(-\frac{1}{u} + \frac{1}{2} \frac{a^2}{u^2}\right)\right|_{a^2}^{\infty}<br /> = \frac{1}{2} \left(\frac{1}{a^2} - \frac{1}{2}\right)

This isn't right. In fact I know the answer must be \frac{1}{4a^2} [/tex]. (I came acorss this integral doing Griffiths E&amp;M problem 8.4; for physical reasons the integral MUST have the value I indicated.) Indeed that&#039;s exactly what WolframAlpha gives; see <a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=int%28s^3+%2F+%28s^2+%2B+a^2%29^3+%2C+s+%3D+0..infty%29" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">here</a>. Incindentally, WolframAlpha doesn&#039;t know what to do with this integral: \int_{a^2}^{\infty} \frac{u - a^2}{u^3} du, (which occurs after my substitution) see <a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=int%28+%28u+-+a^2%29+%2F+u^2%2C+u+%3D+a^2..infty%29" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">here</a>, which I find to be strange and amusing. What&#039;s going on here? I don&#039;t understand, and I feel rather silly that this straightforward integral is causing me problems.
 
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If du = 2 s ds then
\frac{1}{2} \frac{s^2}{u^3} (2 s ds) = \frac{1}{2} \frac{u^2 - a^2}{u^3}
Note that this differs from your expression by a square on the u.
 
I believe you messed up your substitution in the numerator/differential. I personally would use the sub: s=atanθ. This will give you an integral that is easier to deal with, After that sub integration by parts twice should get you your answer.
 
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<br /> \int_0^{\infty} \frac{s^3}{(s^2 + a^2)^3} ds <br /> = \frac{1}{2}\int_{a^2}^{\infty} \frac{s^2}{u^3} du<br /> = \frac{1}{2}\int_{a^2}^{\infty} \frac{u - a^2}{u^3} du<br />
right, since s^2 = u - a^2 by how I defined u.
 
Wow, sorry I wasn’t paying attention at all since I’m so used to squared terms in the denominator being a trig sub.

Your error is when you evaluate the integral. I get 1/2(-1/u + a^2/2u^2) evaluated at inf and a^2 which works out to your desired result.
 
JonF said:
Wow, sorry I wasn’t paying attention at all since I’m so used to squared terms in the denominator being a trig sub.

Your error is when you evaluate the integral. I get 1/2(-1/u + a^2/2u^2) evaluated at inf and a^2 which works out to your desired result.

Yes, I made a typo. I have corrected it. There is still a problem, however.
 
Isn't that the same as what fluxions wrote (apart from a typo in the second-to-last identity, where there is u instead of 1/u, but which is corrected afterwards)?

Making such stupid mistakes, I refrain from replying more, and will get some sleep :)
 
I just spotted one of the mistakes...
\left( \frac{1}{u} - \frac{1}{2} \frac{a^2}{u^2} \right)_{u = a^2} = \frac{1}{a^2} - \frac{a^2}{2 (a^2)^2} = \frac{1}{a^2} - \frac{1}{2} \frac{1}{a^2} = \frac{1}{2} \frac{1}{a^2}

I completely overlooked that you square the square in the second term.
 
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CompuChip said:
I just spotted one of the mistakes...
\left( \frac{1}{u} - \frac{1}{2} \frac{a^2}{u^2} \right)_{u = a^2} = \frac{1}{a^2} - \frac{a^2}{2 (a^2)^2} = \frac{1}{a^2} - \frac{1}{2} \frac{1}{a^2} = \frac{1}{2} \frac{1}{a^2}

I completely overlooked that you square the square in the second term.

Indeed. Problem solved. Thanks.
 

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