How do I know if its me or my study habits?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of academic performance in physics, particularly focusing on study habits and self-assessment of understanding. Participants share personal experiences and strategies related to studying for exams and grasping complex concepts in physics and engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with consistently low exam scores despite significant study efforts, questioning their intelligence and ability to grasp physics concepts.
  • Another suggests that the participant consider engineering as an alternative, though the participant remains uncertain about their potential success in that field as well.
  • A participant advocates for continuous study after each lecture rather than cramming before exams, suggesting this approach may lead to better understanding.
  • Concerns are raised about the participant's ability to understand exam questions, with a suggestion to seek help from the teacher to identify patterns in questions.
  • One participant challenges the notion that struggling in physics means one should switch to engineering, arguing that both fields require different approaches and mindsets.
  • Another participant reassures that the issue may lie in study habits rather than intelligence, emphasizing the importance of effective study strategies and understanding over mere effort.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on study habits and the relationship between intelligence and academic performance. There is no consensus on the best approach to improve understanding and performance in physics, with multiple competing perspectives on the effectiveness of different study strategies.

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Some participants highlight the importance of understanding the questions on exams, while others focus on the overall study habits. There is an acknowledgment of the need for effective study techniques, but specific methods and their effectiveness remain debated.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students struggling with physics or other STEM subjects, as well as those interested in improving their study habits and understanding of complex concepts.

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I am tired of getting sub-par scores on exams. I do not know what I am doing wrong, or if I am simply just not intelligent enough to handle the material. For the last test in Physics I spent 4-5+ hours/day for 4-5 days studying prior by doing practice problems, reviewing material I do not understand and seeing my teacher for help. However, it still came out to be a very low B. When I am reviewing I feel like I am understanding. I feel like I understand almost everything I am doing on the tests. Yet I still lose a lot of points on the stuff I understood very well the days prior. And it is not due to silly mistakes, it is me doing something completely wrong even though I felt I had

I am tired of this because nothing seems to be working. I do not want to waste time on something if I cannot do well in it despite countless hours of attempting to succeed. I do not think determination or drive is enough because it obviously is not for me. I am unable to tell if I am doing something wrong or if I do not have the mental capabilities do perform well.

For those of you who have historically not done well in science, how were you able to perform better? Are there people that simply cannot grasp these concepts and it may be more worth my time to spend time elsewhere? If I can't understand fundamental physics concepts in high school I do not think I should even be thinking about pursuing it in college.
 
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Try engineering.
 
Well, I can't do that quite yet considering I'm still a senior in high school.

But I'll give engineering a try when I get to college if the university offers it.

It still raises the same question though, how would I be any better at engineering than physics?
 
A few thoughts:

1) I'm probably lifting a lot of eyebrows by saying this but I don't approve with the "studying for tests/exams" concept. Ideally I study right after every day after school or after each lecture until I am confident that I understand everything taught. I should only need a few reminder on memorization intensive stuff before tests/exams/assessments.

2) From your description it looks like you are capable of grasping the concept but you have trouble understanding the questions. I may have misinterpreted your post thought, your first paragraph looks cut off. If understanding questions is indeed your problem, then ask your teacher to help you with that. You should be able to find patterns and certain keywords to identify what the questions are looking for.

3) "Not good with physics? Do engineering". Jokes aside, this is not how things work at all. Science and engineering aim to achieve different goals and therefore require different ways to approach problems. In a oversimplified way of looking at things, engineers may solve less rigorous (rigor isn't very well defined btw...) problems, but they have to worry about practical complications to greater extents. Besides, if you do something with a mindset of "I'm doing this before I'm not smart enough for (inset whatever you wanted to go for)," you are going to be miserable for quite a while.
 
Your experience isn't exactly uncommon, and it's almost certainly your study habits. Fortunately, it's fixable. First, you should rid yourself of the notion that you do not have the intelligence to succeed. Succeeding requires effort, but as you've discovered, effort alone is not enough. You need to use your time effectively. Succeeding at physics requires understanding. It's one of those subjects where you really can't fake it for too long before it catches up to you.

These presentation slides are from Dr. Saundra McGuire, a chemistry professor who learned how to help students just like you:

http://www2.palomar.edu/stem/events/Fall2014/Palomar%20College%20Students%202014.pdf

It's geared toward college students, but the ideas are relevant for all students.
 
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