How do I solve for cos^{-1}(x+iy) in the form A+iB?

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The discussion revolves around expressing cos-1(x+iy) in the form A+iB, where x and y are real numbers. Participants explore the relationship between complex numbers and trigonometric functions, particularly focusing on the inverse cosine function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants attempt to express x+iy in terms of trigonometric identities, equating real and imaginary parts. Some express concern over the correctness of their manipulations, while others question the assumptions made about the relationships between the variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering different approaches and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have provided hints and alternative methods, while others express uncertainty about the validity of their steps. There is no clear consensus on the next steps or the correctness of the derived expressions.

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Participants note the complexity of the expressions derived and the challenge of comparing their results without a definitive answer. There is also mention of potential typos and misunderstandings regarding the identities used in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Express cos^{-1}(x+iy) in the form A+iB).

The Attempt at a Solution



x+iy=cos(a+ib)
x-iy=cos(a-ib)
2x=2cos(a)cosh(b)
x=cosa coshb
Similarly,
y=-sina sinhb

Using these values, I got x^2+y^2=cos^2a +sinh^2b, but I don't know where to go from here.

Alternatively,
a+ib=cos^{-1}(x+iy)
a-ib=cos^{-1}(x-iy)
2a=cos^{-1}(x^2+y^2 -\sqrt{1-(x+iy)^2}\sqrt{1-(x-iy)^2})
and similarly,
2b=cos{-1}(x^2+y^2+\sqrt{1-(x+iy)^2}\sqrt{1-(x-iy)^2},

but after expanding, these expressions are too complex. Is this the final expression though? I don't have the answer, so I have nothing to compare this to.
 
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chaoseverlasting said:
x=\cos a \cosh b
y=-\sin a \sinh b

Using these values, I got x^2+y^2=\cos^2 a +\sinh^2 b, but I don't know where to go from here.
That's not right.
 
Hurkyl said:
That's not right.

Why though? Here's what I did:

x+iy=cos(a+ib)
x+iy=cosa cos(ib) -sina sin(ib)
x+iy=cosa coshb -i sina sinhb (as cos(ib)=cosh b and sin(ib)=i sinhb)
Equating the real and imaginary parts,
x=cos a cosh b
y=-sina sinhb

Squaring and adding,

x^2+y^2=cos^2acosh^2b +sin^2a sinh^2b
As cosh^2a=1+sinh^2b,

x^2+y^2=cos^2a +sinh^2b(cos^2a+sin^2a)
Hence,
x^2+y^2=cos^2a +sinh^2b.

What did I do wrong? Where do I go from here?
 
Anyone got any hints/ideas on this one?
 
I'd do it like this:

if z = A + iB

then use the definition of cos...

\frac{e^{iz} + e^{-iz}}{2} = x + iy

Then I'd let h = e^{iz}

So you have

\frac{h+1/h}{2} = x + iy

So first solve for h... then get z out of that... then get A and B from that...

I didn't actually work through this, so I don't know if it will work... just an idea...
 
What reason do you have for thinking that if x+ iy= cos(a+ bi) then
x- iy= cos(a-bi)?

I think I would try to use
cos(z)= \frac{e^z+ e^{-z}}{2}
Of course, if z= x+ iy then
e^{x+iy}= e^x(cos(y)+ i sin(y))
and
e^{-(x-iy)}= e^{-x}x(cos(y)- i sin(y))
so that is
cos(x+iy)= \frac{e^x(cos(y)+ i sin(y))+e^{-x}(cos(y)- i sin(y))}{2}
Now separate the real and imaginary parts of that.
 
HallsofIvy said:
What reason do you have for thinking that if x+ iy= cos(a+ bi) then
x- iy= cos(a-bi)?

I think I would try to use
cos(z)= \frac{e^z+ e^{-z}}{2}
Of course, if z= x+ iy then
e^{x+iy}= e^x(cos(y)+ i sin(y))
and
e^{-(x-iy)}= e^{-x}x(cos(y)- i sin(y))
so that is
cos(x+iy)= \frac{e^x(cos(y)+ i sin(y))+e^{-x}(cos(y)- i sin(y))}{2}
Now separate the real and imaginary parts of that.

But he needs cos^-1(x+iy)...

Is this derivation to show that x+ iy= cos(a+ bi) implies x- iy= cos(a-bi) ?
 
HallsofIvy said:
cos(z)= \frac{e^z+ e^{-z}}{2}

That's a typo, right?

There could be two ways to correct it...

cosh(z)= \frac{e^z+ e^{-z}}{2}

OR

cos(z)= \frac{e^{i z}+ e^{-i z}}{2}
 
HallsofIvy said:
What reason do you have for thinking that if x+ iy= cos(a+ bi) then
x- iy= cos(a-bi)?

It pops right out of the identity,
\cos(a+ib) = \cos a \cosh b - i \sin a \sinh b
 
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Letting \cos z = y = \frac{e^{iz} + e^{-iz}}{2}, replace all x's with y's and y's with x's, which is what you do to find inverse relations. Then solve for y using logs.
 
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Actually, I solved it. Here's what I did:

x+iy=cos(a+ib)
x-iy=cos(a-ib)
cos(2a)=cos(a+ib+a-ib)=x^2+y^2-\sqrt{(1-(x+iy)^2)(1-(x-iy)^2)} (using cos(a+b))
cos(2a)=x^2+y^2+(x^2+y^2-1) orcos(2a)=x^2+y^2-(x^2+y^2-1)

This gives you A=(2n+1)\frac{\pi}{4} or A=\frac{1}{2}cos^{-1}(2x^2+2y^2-1)

Similarly,
B=\frac{1}{2}cosh^{-1}(2x^2+2y^2-1) or iB=(2n+1)\frac{\pi}{4}. But which is it? How do I eliminate one solution set?
 
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