How do I solve the Laplace equation using Robbin's Boundary Conditions?

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The discussion revolves around solving the Laplace equation with Robin boundary conditions, focusing on the correct formulation of boundary conditions at specific points. Participants clarify the notation used, particularly the derivative notation and the role of constants in the equations. A proposed solution involves setting u(x,y) as a function of y and adjusting the boundary conditions accordingly. The conversation highlights the importance of satisfying all boundary conditions, particularly at x = 0 and x = a, to achieve a meaningful solution. Ultimately, the adjustments made to the function and boundary conditions lead to a more coherent solution for the Laplace equation.
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Equation

(d^2 u)/(dx^2 )+(d^2 u)/(dy^2 )=0

boundary conditions

u(0,y)=0
u(a,y)=50
u(x,0)=0
u^' (x,b)=-h[u(x,b)-70]
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(d^2 u)/(dx^2 )+(d^2 u)/(dy^2 )=0
I've tried a few things. I did one method to try to accomplish the removal of the -70 in the derivative boundary condition. It came out as below. When plotting it however it gave a solution that didn't make sense.

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What is the boundary condition at x = a? What do you mean by the notation u', since u is a function of 2 varaibles? Do you mean \frac{\partial u}{\partial x}? Is h a constant?

If that is correct, then I would set <br /> u(x,y) = \frac{70h}{1 + ah}x + v(x,y) where v satisfies \begin{split}<br /> v(0,y) = 0, \\<br /> \frac{\partial v}{\partial x}(a,y) + hv(a,y) &amp;= 0, \\<br /> v(x,0) &amp;= -\frac{70h}{1 + ah}x, \\<br /> v(x,b) &amp;= 50 - \frac{70h}{1 + ah}x. \end{split}
 
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What is the boundary condition at x = a? What do you mean by the notation u&#039;, since u is a function of 2 varaibles? Do you mean \frac{\partial u}{\partial x}? Is h a constant?

If that is correct, then I would set <br /> u(x,y) = \frac{70h}{1 + ah}x + v(x,y) where v satisfies \begin{split}<br /> v(0,y) = 0, \\<br /> \frac{\partial v}{\partial x}(a,y) + hv(a,y) &amp;= 0, \\<br /> v(x,0) &amp;= -\frac{70h}{1 + ah}x, \\<br /> v(x,b) &amp;= 50 - \frac{70h}{1 + ah}x. \end{split}
Yes, exactly as you said. du/dx and h is a constant.

I realized I made an error.

The conditions are actually

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I'll fix it also on the original post.

It's what you have but y instead of x.

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The problem is, this gives an answer where for all y when u(0,y)=0 when x should be zero, x does not equal zero.

The funny thing is if I manipulate the equation by multiplying the first term by x/a. I can plot a solution that makes sense.

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You're only satisfying the boundary condition at x = a. No wonder you don't get the right value at x = 0.

Setting u(x,y) = \frac{70hy}{1 + bh} + v(x,y) gives \begin{split} v(0,y) &amp;= -\frac{70h}{1 + bh}y \\<br /> v(a,y) &amp;= 50 - \frac{70h}{1 + bh}y \\<br /> v(x,0) &amp;= 0 \\<br /> \left.\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right|_{(x,b)} + hv(x,b) &amp;= 0. \end{split} This gives you <br /> u(x,y) = \frac{70h}{1 + bh}y + \sum_{n=1}^\infty X_n(x) \sin k_n y. Now X_n is a linear combination of \cosh k_n x and \sinh k_n x. But instead of taking X_n(0) = 0, you must take \sum_{n=1}^\infty X_n(0) \sin k_n y + \frac{70h}{1 + bh}y = 0. You can't just ignore the \cosh k_n x solution, you need it to satisfy this condition.
It is, however, more convenient to take advantage of the fact that \sinh k_n(a- x) \equiv \sinh k_n a \cosh k_n x - \cosh k_n a \sinh k_n x is a linear combination of \cosh k_n x and \sinh k_n x and set <br /> X_n(x) = \frac{A_n \sinh k_n(a-x) + B_n \sinh k_n x}{\sinh k_n a} so that \begin{split}<br /> 0 &amp;= u(0,y) = \frac{70h}{1 + bh}y + \sum_{n=1}^\infty A_n \sin k_n y \\<br /> 50 &amp;= u(a,y) = \frac{70h}{1 + bh}y + \sum_{n=1}^\infty B_n \sin k_n y \end{split}
 
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