How Do I Understand Octants and Graphs in Calculus III?

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The discussion revolves around understanding octants and graphing in three-dimensional Cartesian coordinates, particularly in the context of a Calculus III class. Participants explore the concept of octants, the representation of inequalities, and the visualization of specific graphs.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the concept of octants, initially believing there would be 12, suggesting a misunderstanding of how the coordinate planes divide space.
  • Another participant clarifies that in three dimensions, there are 8 octants, derived from the combinations of positive and negative values for x, y, and z.
  • A further breakdown of the octants is provided, listing the combinations of signs for (x, y, z) that yield the 8 octants.
  • Participants discuss the inequality x^2 + y^2 ≤ 1 with no restriction on z, explaining that this represents a unit disk in the xy-plane extended infinitely along the z-axis, forming a cylinder.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the number of octants being 8 and the interpretation of the inequalities, but there is some initial confusion from the original poster regarding the concept of octants.

Contextual Notes

There is a reliance on understanding the definitions of octants and the implications of inequalities in three-dimensional space, which may not be fully resolved for all participants.

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I have a few questions on a problem in my first Calc III class. "The solid cube in the first octant bounded by the coordinate planes and x=2,y=2 and z=2, write the inequality to describe the set". I am new to the 3 dimensional cartesian system, but i still do not get the concept of the octants because i figured their would be 12, 4 for each plane. and also,
x^2 + Y^2 <=1 and no restriction on Z, how does this graph look like. I have been having trouble with those 2 problems. I would greatly apreciate your help.
 
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In two dimensions on the cartesian plane, you have four quadrants. When you include the third dimension, you may call the number line the z axis. This z axis points above and below the x y plane; above the x y plane will be four octants and below the x y plane will be another four octants. 4 + 4 = 8.
 
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I have a few questions on a problem in my first Calc III class. "The solid cube in the first octant bounded by the coordinate planes and x=2,y=2 and z=2, write the inequality to describe the set". I am new to the 3 dimensional cartesian system, but i still do not get the concept of the octants because i figured their would be 12, 4 for each plane.
But you are not restricted to the coordinate planes. In the xy-plane you have 2 coordinate axes each having 2 sides: they divide the plane into 22= 4 quadrants. In 3 dimensions, you have 3 coordinate axes that divide the entire space into 23= 8 "octants". You can also, as nicktacik said, look at the signs: each of x, y and z can be either positive or negative: again 23= 8 possible combinations

and also,
x^2 + Y^2 <=1 and no restriction on Z, how does this graph look like. I have been having trouble with those 2 problems. I would greatly apreciate your help.
In the plane, x^2+ y^2\le 1 is the unit disk. Since z can be anything imagine the disk moving straight up and down: you have the inside of an infinitely long cylinder.
 

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