How do I use this equation? Estimating half-life of a decay

In summary, the conversation is about using equation 8.18 to calculate the half-life of a decay. The equation is used for both alpha-decay and 12C decay, with slight differences in the values for z and Z'. The main issue is with the calculations, particularly with the values for a/c and amu. The equation seems to give a reasonable answer for alpha-decay, but the slow 12C decay may not be included in the listings. The suggestion is to calculate ln(t1/2) to see if the result is credible.
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llatosz
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How should I go about using equation 8.18? Link can be found below. In the book, an example is used where
Th-220 --> C-12 + Po-208 with a Q value of 32.1 MeV is used, and it is said to yield
t1/2 = 2.3x106 but for the life of me I cannot reproduce this result. This is what I did:
Going from left to right in the equation,
-for a/c i used (1.25*2201/3 x10^-12 m ) / (3x10^8 m/s)
-for V0 I used 35 MeV which was also given
-for mc^2 I used amu * 931.5 MeV/(amu * c^2)
-for h-bar * c i used ( 6.582x10^-10 MeV * s ) * (3x10^8 m/s)
-for z i used 6
-for Z' i used 84
-for 1/(4πε0) i used 8.988x10^9 Nm^2/c^2
half life equation.jpg


I used all SI units except for my MeV which cancel. But I keep getting an overflow error in my Ti-84 Plus. What could be wrong?
 
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llatosz said:
-for a/c i used (1.25*2201/3 x10^-12 m ) / (3x10^8 m/s)
Here's one problem (there may be others): 1 fm = 10-15 m, not 10-12 m. If you used the same value of a when calculating B, you need to fix it there, also; this might have a big effect because it's inside an exponential.
 
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Ah you're right! But unfortunately it still didn't work. I calculated all the terms separately and that exponent is just way too high no matter what. I might just call this one a loss lol. I really appreciate your reply though!
 
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llatosz said:
I used all SI units except for my MeV which cancel.
What about amu?
 
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DrClaude said:
What about amu?
Yep, I used amu in order to be able to use the 931.5 MeV/(amu*c^2) too
 
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Can you pin down which is the big number? For instance, the text above equation (8.18) indicates that x = Q/B should be << 1. Is it?
 
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I just noticed that eq. (8.18) is for alpha-decay, not 12C decay; does that make a difference?
 
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John Park said:
I just noticed that eq. (8.18) is for alpha-decay, not 12C decay; does that make a difference?
It shouldn't make a difference because this equation is flexible for any massive decay. For alpha decay, the difference between z and Z' would be 2, for 12C decay, z-Z' would be 6
 
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John Park said:
Can you pin down which is the big number? For instance, the text above equation (8.18) indicates that x = Q/B should be << 1. Is it?
I remember the first multiplication term in the exponent was in the 8,000's. But I am afraid I lost my work for this equation and i really don't want to start again lol
 
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After a tiny bit of reading, I gather that 12C decay might be rather slow. What it look like if you just calculated ln (t1/2) ?

Edit: ignore this--you're trying to compare with a calculated result.
 
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After a bit more reading I find that the only listed decay processes for 220Th are electron capture, and alpha decay with a half-life of about 10 μs. See Wikpedia, "Isotopes of Thorium".

Edit: Not sure if the much slower 12C process would simply be ignored in the listings, if it''s real, or if there are grounds to question its reality.

Edit 2: See below.
 
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I found this useful:
/instruct/ch374/ch418518/Chapter%207%20Alpha%20Decay-rev.pdf

Equation (8.18) seems to give a reasonable answer for alpha decay (rough calculation, not checked). The factor in front of the exponential is very small and may reduce the product to the right level. I'd try finding ln(t1/2) and see if the result looks credible.
 

1. How do I calculate the half-life of a decay using an equation?

To calculate the half-life of a decay, you can use the following equation: t1/2 = ln(2) / λ, where t1/2 is the half-life, ln(2) is the natural log of 2, and λ is the decay constant. This equation is valid for exponential decay processes.

2. What is the meaning of the variables in the half-life equation?

The half-life (t1/2) represents the amount of time it takes for half of the initial quantity of a substance to decay. The decay constant (λ) represents the rate at which the substance is decaying, and ln(2) is a constant value equal to approximately 0.693.

3. Can I use the half-life equation for any type of decay?

No, the half-life equation is only applicable for exponential decay processes. For other types of decay, such as logarithmic or power law decay, different equations may be necessary.

4. How do I know which value to use for the decay constant (λ)?

The decay constant (λ) can be determined experimentally or can be given in a problem or equation. It is typically a characteristic value specific to the substance undergoing decay.

5. What units should the values in the half-life equation be in?

The half-life (t1/2) is typically expressed in time units, such as seconds, minutes, or years. The decay constant (λ) is typically expressed in units of inverse time, such as 1/s or 1/year. It is important to ensure that both values are in consistent units before using the equation to calculate the half-life.

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