The discussion centers on the interplay between nature and nurture in shaping survival instincts. It highlights that instinctual behaviors, such as self-sacrifice for offspring, are evident in both humans and animals, exemplified by the praying mantis, where males are often killed during mating to benefit the population. The conversation questions the assumption that humans are separate from nature, suggesting that maternal instincts often lead to self-sacrifice for the sake of children. Additionally, it argues against clearly distinguishing between genetic predispositions and life experiences in influencing behavior, emphasizing the complexity of human instincts and the challenges of ontological inquiries in this context.