How do overhead projectors project black onto a screen?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of how overhead projectors create the appearance of black on a screen, particularly in relation to the projection of light and color. Participants explore concepts of light intensity, perception, and the interaction of projected colors on a white background.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that projectors create the appearance of black by projecting white light around text, resulting in an absence of light where the text is.
  • Another participant notes that human perception measures differences in light rather than absolute intensity, which contributes to the perception of black.
  • A participant mentions the Chessboard illusion as a related phenomenon, implying it demonstrates similar perceptual effects.
  • One participant proposes the idea of measuring light with a light meter to demonstrate that "black" is not projected at all.
  • Another participant humorously questions whether a particle could be used to absorb all photons to project black.
  • There is a claim that projecting red, green, and blue light together would result in the perception of white, while another participant questions the conditions under which this occurs.
  • Participants discuss the conditions of light in theaters, noting that dimmed lights can affect the perception of projected images.
  • One participant speculates that if red, green, and blue are projected in equal parts, it would appear white, but questions arise about the effect of adding another wavelength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how colors interact when projected and the conditions under which colors appear black or white. There is no consensus on the specifics of color perception and projection mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about human perception and the physics of light that are not fully explored or resolved within the discussion.

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My housemates and I were having a discussion on how projectors work, and how they can project text on a white background. One idea was that white light is projected around the text with an absence of light where the text is, so it appeare relitively black. Then my friend posed the question of if you project a black frame around a white rectangle, it would still appear black. With an absence of projected light, surely it would appear the same colour as the background screen, which would be white, the same colour as the screen with projected white light on it.

So how does this work?
 
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Welcome to PF.

Your eyes don't exactly measure light intensity, they more measure differences in light. So when one object is a lot darker than another, it appears black.
 
russ_watters said:
Welcome to PF.

Your eyes don't exactly measure light intensity, they more measure differences in light. So when one object is a lot darker than another, it appears black.

To add to what russ_watters is saying, check out the Chessboard (or checkerboard) illusion (at least, I think that it's a manifestation of the same sort of phenomenon):
http://www.popularscience.co.uk/features/feat16.htm
 
Thanks guys. I think i was on the right lines then.

That link is incredible by the way!
 
You can also take a light meter and measure it. You'll see that "black" isn't projected at all.
 
that would be cool if you could project black. is there some kind of particle you could launch in a beam that would absorb all photons?
 
tot said:
that would be cool if you could project black. is there some kind of particle you could launch in a beam that would absorb all photons?

With http://www.siliconhell.com/humour/darksucker.htm" ? :smile:

(for the humor-impaired: this is a joke)
 
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I could be wrong, but I thought that if one projects the colors red, green and blue on the same area of a white screen, the brain perceives that area as totally black.
 
If you projected red green and blue, you would see white
 
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if you projected light of 3 wavelengths: Red, green and blue.
of all the same intensity then it equals white?
what about if you projected 4 different wavelengths? you just added another one in?

under what condition will it appear to be white?
 
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Generally the lights are dimmed while viewing a projected image or movie, and in theaters the dimmed lights are directed away from the screen so the screen is very dark if there is no projected light on it.
 
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tot said:
if you projected light of 3 wavelengths: Red, green and blue.
of all the same intensity then it equals white?
what about if you projected 4 different wavelengths? you just added another one in?

under what condition will it appear to be white?

I'm assuming it would appear white if red green and blue is projected in equal parts. If you added another, you would see that colour?

I may be wrong
 

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