How Do Power, Force, and Velocity Interact?

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The discussion focuses on the interaction of power, force, and velocity in the context of a lorry's movement on a slope. The relevant equation discussed is P = F * v, where F represents the motive force delivered by the engine, which must counteract a resistance of 5200N and the gravitational component. Participants clarify that the total force on the truck is zero when speed is constant, emphasizing the importance of the static frictional force and torque provided by the engine. The final consensus is that the power is calculated by multiplying the force exerted by the engine with the velocity of the lorry.

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Homework Statement
question c part ii) power produced by engine
Relevant Equations
p= f* v
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8628.46 ?

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BvU said:
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its by finding the component of weight along slope
 
So the slope is given, and so is the mass of the lorry. Given for you , that is.
But my telepathic capabilities are limited and I need a complete problem statement, typed out.

And: what are the directions of 8628.46 and the resistive force ?

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BvU said:
So the slope is given, and so is the mass of the lorry. Given for you , that is.
But my telepathic capabilities are limited and I need a complete problem statement, typed out.

And: what are the directions of 8628.46 and the resistive force ?

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i have attached the question image above..., is it not there? let me check again
 
hello478 said:
Homework Statement: question c part ii) power produced by engine
Relevant Equations: p= f* v

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The F you need to use in P=Fv is the motive force delivered by the engine. This has to balance the opposing forces, the 5200N of resistance plus the gravitational component.
 
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haruspex said:
The F you need to use in P=Fv is the motive force delivered by the engine. This has to balance the opposing forces, the 5200N of resistance plus the gravitational component.
ok so in p=fv
the f would always be total force?
 
hello478 said:
ok so in p=fv
the f would always be total force?
Depends what you mean by "total force". As you wrote, since the speed is constant the total force on the truck is zero.
 
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haruspex said:
Depends what you mean by "total force". As you wrote, since the speed is constant the total force on the truck is zero.
yeah the net force would be zero
but here... we would have to use the force which is causing the body to move(the total force, sum of resistive forces) with that velocity???
is this explanation fine?
 
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hello478 said:
yeah the net force would be zero
but here... we would have to use the force which is causing the body to move
Yes, that being the static frictional force on the tyres. We can consider that the motive force provided by the engine, though in reality what the engine provides is a torque.
hello478 said:
(the total force, sum of resistive forces) with that velocity???
is this explanation fine?
Not sure what you mean by that. In the general case the truck is accelerating, so we have ##F_{net}=F_{static}+F_{resist}=ma##, ##F_{resist}## being negative. So the engine power would be ##F_{static}v=(ma-F_{resist})v##.
 
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haruspex said:
Not sure what you mean by that.
i meant that we would multiply the force which causes to move the lorry with the velocity it creates
also is this applicable to all cases?
 
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hello478 said:
i meant that we would multiply the force which causes to move the lorry with the velocity it creates
You don't have to care what creates the velocity. What matters is that a force ##\vec F## is exerted at a point on a body while that point is moving with velocity ##\vec v##. The power transferred is ##\vec F\cdot\vec v##.
 
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I'm still worried about the signs:
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F would be 8628.46+5200
 
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I agree
 
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