How Do You Calculate a Jet's Average Velocity and Change in Velocity?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating a jet's average velocity and change in velocity based on its speed and direction at two different times. The context includes vector analysis and the application of kinematic equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for vector fundamentals and question the relevance of certain values presented by the original poster. There is uncertainty about how to calculate average velocity without complete information on time and displacement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered resources for understanding vector concepts, while others are exploring the implications of assuming constant acceleration. There is recognition that the problem may lack necessary data, and multiple interpretations of the average velocity calculation are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the time for the second part of the journey is not provided, which complicates the calculation of displacement. There is also discussion about the assumptions that may be necessary to approach the problem.

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Homework Statement


A jet is flying at 600 mi/h in a direction of 45 degrees North of West. 2.5 minutes later it is flying at 450 mi/h in a direction of 30 degrees North of East.
a) Sketch a vector diagram labeling Vi, Vf, and ∆V.
b) Calculate the average velocity vector in unit-vector notation.
c) Calculate the magnitude and direction of average velocity


Homework Equations



average velocity = displacement/ time

The Attempt at a Solution



I do not know the vector of which the plane going 450mi/h while the first vector is 25miles
 
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"I do not know the vector of which the plane going 450mi/h..." Are you saying that you do not know how to draw this?

"...while the first vector is 25 miles" Where does 25 miles come from?

I think you might need some vector fundamentals training. Here is a good resource--
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/vectors/u3l1a.can

There are tons of web sites that could help if this one is not satisfactory
 
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I know how to draw it, but I do not know how to solve it.

600mi/h *2.5min = 25miles
 
popmop2 said:
I know how to draw it, but I do not know how to solve it.
Good, so then you can answer part a). If you can, please attach your drawing.

600mi/h *2.5min = 25miles

Okay, what I meant was "25 miles" is not a vector and even so it is not relevant to any of the questions.

To quickly be able to help you, you need to indicate specifically what it is you are having trouble with. Which of the following are having trouble with (check all that apply)

[ ] average velocity vector definition
[ ] unit vector notation
[ ] determining the magnitude of a vector
[ ] determining the direction of a vector
 
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popmop2 said:
average velocity = displacement/ time
That is correct, so I don't know how you can find the average velocity based on the given data, since the time for the 2nd part of the journey is not stated, and therfore, you cannot calculate the displacement. Did you leave something out of the problem statement?
 
I was thinking this was solvable if you assume constant acceleration.
 
lewando said:
I was thinking this was solvable if you assume constant acceleration.
Unless the problem left out some data, it may have been assuming the same thing. But you just can't add up the two velocities and divide by two to get the average velocity unless the plane flies in a straight line with constant acceleration, which is far from the case here, so you need to know or find the total displacement, which cannot be determined with the given info. I guess only the OP knows for sure...the change in velocity is another matter, that is calculable.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Unless the problem left out some data, it may have been assuming the same thing. But you just can't add up the two velocities and divide by two to get the average velocity unless the plane flies in a straight line with constant acceleration, which is far from the case here, so you need to know or find the total displacement, which cannot be determined with the given info. I guess only the OP knows for sure...the change in velocity is another matter, that is calculable.

Without giving too much away, and if the OP can confirm (or is willing to assume) constant acceleration, consider:

vf = vi+ at
vf - vi= at = Δv

If you choose the origin as the point where the plane begins its constant acceleration phase (ri = 0)

then rf= vit + 0.5at2
 

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