How Do You Calculate Average Body Density Using Archimedes' Principle?

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The problem involves calculating the average body density of a person floating in water, with specific details about the person's weight and the volume of the submerged portion. The context is rooted in Archimedes' principle and buoyancy concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Archimedes' principle and the relationship between buoyancy and weight. There are attempts to establish equilibrium between buoyant force and gravitational force. Questions arise regarding the definitions and implications of buoyancy, as well as the interpretation of the given values and units.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing frustration over the problem's complexity and the perceived lack of clarity in the information provided. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions involved, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or interpretation of the problem.

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Participants note the presence of multiple unknowns and question the validity of their calculations and assumptions. There is also a mention of confusion regarding the units of measurement and the interpretation of the answers provided in the multiple-choice format.

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Homework Statement


A 60kg person floats vertically in a water pool with just her head, of volume 2.5L, exposed. What is the average density of her body?

Homework Equations


Archimedes: F = rho*V*g
mass = rho*V

The Attempt at a Solution


I got this problem on my midterm and I'm pissed off that I couldn't figure out the answer. I've had similar problems to this but none that had this many missing variables and I can't even find anything in the book to help me out after I just took the test. This was supposed to be an "easy" question so that's why I'm pissed and felt like punching my teacher in the face after the test.

I first drew a free body diagram where the person is in the water with only the head out of it. Fb points up, Fg points down.

Then I said well its in static equilibrium so Fb = Fg.

Then I figured well Fg = rho*V so 60kg *(9.8 m/s2) = 588 N.

Then Fb = 588 N right?

So I said 588 N = 1.0x103*V*(9.8 m/s2)
so V = 0.06 L ?WTF?

The person is obviously not floating in 60 mL of water so I was pretty much stuck here and didn't know what the hell to do.

But since it happened to be a multiple choice question I went with an average density of 8.4 x 103 kg/m3 since I already know the person is less dense than water and I remembered an iceberg example where the iceberg was 89% under water because the density of the fresh water was 89% of the density of the salt water. I only had common sense to justify my answer so I figured since the whole head was sticking out of the water that was about 84% of the body submerged.

The other answers were:

9.2x103 kg/m3 i figured it wasn't this close to water's density
9.6103 kg/m3 i figured it wasn't this close to water's density
1.0x103 kg/m3 obviously not this one
1.04x103 kg/m3 obviously not this one either
 
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Looks like you have selected wrong answer.

What is buoyancy definition?

Buoyancy equals body mass.

There is only one unknown, everything else cancels out.
 
Are you serious? Dammit! What the hell is the buoyancy definition then? All we learned about buoyancy was Archimedes Principle. As I stated: F = rho*V*g

Please explain how you got to your conclusion because I can't as I've said. There are too many unknowns or I'm just blind and am not seeing something obvious.
 
Hi aarunt1,

aarunt1 said:

Homework Statement


A 60kg person floats vertically in a water pool with just her head, of volume 2.5L, exposed. What is the average density of her body?


Homework Equations


Archimedes: F = rho*V*g
mass = rho*V

The Attempt at a Solution


I got this problem on my midterm and I'm pissed off that I couldn't figure out the answer. I've had similar problems to this but none that had this many missing variables and I can't even find anything in the book to help me out after I just took the test. This was supposed to be an "easy" question so that's why I'm pissed and felt like punching my teacher in the face after the test.

I first drew a free body diagram where the person is in the water with only the head out of it. Fb points up, Fg points down.

Then I said well its in static equilibrium so Fb = Fg.

Then I figured well Fg = rho*V so 60kg *(9.8 m/s2) = 588 N.

Then Fb = 588 N right?

So I said 588 N = 1.0x103*V*(9.8 m/s2)
so V = 0.06 L ?WTF?

What are the units of the [itex]1.0\times 10^3[/itex] factor? You said the force is 588 N; what is a Newton in terms of meters, seconds, etc? Based on those units, what are the units of the volume 0.06?

The person is obviously not floating in 60 mL of water so I was pretty much stuck here and didn't know what the hell to do.

But since it happened to be a multiple choice question I went with an average density of 8.4 x 103 kg/m3 since I already know the person is less dense than water and I remembered an iceberg example where the iceberg was 89% under water because the density of the fresh water was 89% of the density of the salt water. I only had common sense to justify my answer so I figured since the whole head was sticking out of the water that was about 84% of the body submerged.

The other answers were:

9.2x103 kg/m3 i figured it wasn't this close to water's density
9.6103 kg/m3 i figured it wasn't this close to water's density
1.0x103 kg/m3 obviously not this one
1.04x103 kg/m3 obviously not this one either

Are the answers beginning with 8.4, 9.2, and 9.6 supposed to be multiplied by [itex]10^2[/itex] instead of [itex]10^3[/itex]?
 

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