How Do You Calculate Electric Potential of a Nonuniformly Charged Rod?

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The problem involves calculating the electric potential of a nonuniformly charged rod with a linear charge distribution defined as λ = ax. The rod has a length of 2l and is centered at the origin. The discussion focuses on determining the potential at points along both the y-axis and the x-axis, with specific attention to the integration limits and the interpretation of variables involved in the calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to set up the integral for calculating the potential but expresses confusion regarding the limits of integration and the definition of "r" in the context of the problem. Some participants question the integration approach and suggest clarifying the relationship between the variables involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the integration limits and the variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the integral, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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The original poster indicates uncertainty about the integration limits and the correct expression to integrate, which may affect the overall understanding of the problem. There is a focus on ensuring that the integration is set up correctly for points along the x-axis where x > l.

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[SOLVED] Electric potential

Homework Statement



The charge on the rod of the figure (length 2l, center at the origin) has a nonuniform linear charge distribution, λ = ax.
Determine the potential V at:

(a) points along the y-axis.
(b) points along the x-axis. (Assume x > l)

(express all answers in terms of a, x, l, ε0 and appropriate constants)



Homework Equations



dQ = λdx
dV = dQ/(4*pi*ε0*r)



The Attempt at a Solution



For part a, V = 0 because
dV = dQ/[4*pi*ε0*(x2 + y2)1/2] dx with limits of integration from -l to l.

For part b, I'm having a really hard time determining the limits of integration and what "r" in dV is (ie, is it x or is it r, a segment of the rod?). I tried a lot of things, none of which produced the correct answer. Right now, I have

Let k = 1/(4*pi*ε0)
I'm treating "x" as a fixed distance from the rod, while calling r a segment or distance along the rod starting at x - l.

dV = [k(ar)]/(x - l + r) dr with integration limits from x - l to x + l (one end of the rod to the other)

With change of variables,
u = x - l + r
dx = du
r = u - x + l
integration limits become 2x - 2l to 2x


dV = [ka(u - x + l)] /u du
= ka (1 + (l - x)/u) du

V = ka(u + (l - x)ln(u))
V = ka(2x - (2x - 2l) + (l - x)ln(2x) - (l - x)ln(2x - 2l))
V = ka(2l + (l - x)ln(2x / 2x - 2l))
V = ka(2l + (l - x)ln(x / (x - l)))

I have a feeling that this is wrong, especially because I still don't completely understand what I'm supposed to integrate along, etc. Can someone explain how to go about solving this problem and point out what I am doing incorrectly?

Thank you!
 
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Along x, aren't you integrating in r at any point x > l from the distance x - l the closest point to x + l the farthest distance?
 
umm, I was until the change of variables part--unless I don't need a change of variables and integrated the wrong expression?
 
misa said:
umm, I was until the change of variables part--unless I don't need a change of variables and integrated the wrong expression?

I guess what I was trying to suggest was that you have an r for some point X > l such that r(x) = X - x. You would be taking the integral of this I was thinking from x = l to x = -l

dV = k*a*x/r(x)*dx = k*a*x/(X - x)*dx
 
Oh! Okay, that makes sense (where X is treated like it's fixed but r(x) is still the distance from X to x, some point on the rod). Thank you!
 
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