Semicircular rod and Electric Potential Question

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The problem involves a thin, flexible rod of length 10 cm that carries a uniform charge of 91 nC and is bent into a semicircle. Participants are tasked with finding the electric potential at the center of the semicircle and determining the position and charge of a point charge needed to make the potential zero at that center.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of electric potential due to the charged rod and question the effects of the rod on the point charge's potential in part b. There is a mention of varying 'r' to account for the influence of the rod.

Discussion Status

Some participants appear to agree with the approach taken for part a, while others clarify that the potential due to a charge is independent of the presence of other charges. There is a note about the implications of the rod being an insulator rather than a conductor, which could complicate the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the charge density being constant and discussing the nature of the rod as an insulator, which may affect the problem's complexity.

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Homework Statement


A thin, flexible rod of length L = 10 cm carries charge Q = 91 nC uniformly along its length. The rod is then bent into a semicircle, as shown in the figure. Show all work and circle answers. a) Find the electrical potential at the center.
b) Now we want to place a single point charge so that the electric potential is zero at the center. What are the coordinates of this charge’s positions (x,y) and what is the charge Q1 needed in Coulombs?

(I can't extract the figure, but its basically a semicircular rod of charge with a point where the center of the full circle would be.)

Homework Equations


U= kQq / r, λ = Q/L, C=2πr

The Attempt at a Solution


Part a.) We take (from 0-L)∫ dU = ∫(k/r)dQ => dQ = λdL, ∫(k/r)λdL => kλ/r * L ]from0-L
= (kλ/r) * L = kQ/r (same as U) , And we calculate r from 2L = 2πr.

But wouldn't the point charge in b) also be affected by the rod, and in that case we would have to vary 'r' as well to find that charge's elect. potential?

Much appreciated!
 
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(a) looks like what I'd do.
(b) the potential at a point due to a charge does not depend on the presence of other charges... as your own equation shows.
 
Got it, thanks!
 
... note: it would matter if the rod were a conductor, then it becomes quite a hard problem.
Fortunately you are told that the charge density is a constant - so it must be an insulator.
 

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