How Do You Calculate Omega for a Mass Between Two Different Springs?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular frequency (omega) for a mass positioned between two springs with different spring constants (k1 and k2). The user initially applies Newton's second law, leading to the equation ma = (k2 - k1)x, which is then used to derive omega as omega = -sqrt((k2 - k1)x/m). However, confusion arises regarding the negative sign in the omega formula. Another participant suggests that the forces from both springs should be additive rather than subtractive, indicating that the correct approach involves considering the combined effects of both springs on the mass.

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Homework Statement


Hey

The part of the question that i am not all the sure about is Newtons second law.
and the Omega
the Situation is as followed

]/\/\/k1\/\/\[m]/\/\/k2/\/\[

There are 2 springs k1,k2 and a mass in between.

Homework Equations



F=ma and F=-kx

x=Asin(omega(t)+theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



Now i find it a little confusing because there are 2 springs with both different constants.

I think the solution is

ma=(-k1+k2)x which turns into ma=(k2-k1)x so a+((k2-k1)x)/m=0
now when finding the solution for Omega i get

omega= -sqr(((k2-k1)x)/m) now the (-) sign is annoying me, usually its not there,
so i think i might made a mistake with the (k2-k1),

thanks for the help

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There is a property for the system you are trying to figure out that I can't quite recall, but subtracting the constants is not right. Think about the physics of the situation.

]/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/k1\/\/\[m]/\/\/k2/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/[ this then goes to this
]\/\/k1\/\/\[m]\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/k2\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/[
so you know that this point k1 is compressed to it is pushing m to the right.
you also know that k2 is stretched, so it will pull m also to the right. So you know that these two forces must add, my guess would be that it is by a factor of 1/root(2). You can find this easily online, let me know what the answer ends up being
 

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