How Do You Calculate Specific Heat Capacity and Latent Heat of Fusion for Lead?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating specific heat capacity and latent heat of fusion for lead, based on a scenario where molten lead cools and solidifies. The problem involves analyzing temperature changes over time and applying relevant thermodynamic principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between heat loss and temperature change, questioning how to apply the specific heat capacity of solid lead and the implications of constant heat loss. There are discussions about which cooling intervals to use for calculations and the correct interpretation of the given data.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered insights on how to approach the calculations, with some suggesting methods for determining the rate of heat loss and others questioning the assumptions made about the cooling process. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the values calculated for specific heat capacity and latent heat, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the application of specific heat capacity during different phases of cooling and the need for clarity on the timing of temperature changes. There is also mention of varying answers among participants, reflecting the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement


3.00 kg of molten lead is allowed to cool until is has solidified. It is found that the temperature of the lead falls from 605 K to 600 K in 10 s, remains constant at 600K for 300 s, and then falls to 595 K in a further 8.4 s. Assuming that the loss of heat energy remains constant and the specific heat capacity of solid lead is 140 Jkg-1 K-1, calculate:

(a) the rate of loss of energy from the lead; ()
(b) the specific latent heat of fusion of lead; ()
(c) the specific heat capacity of liquid lead.


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The Attempt at a Solution


No idea how to start this, can someone give me a hand to start please.
 
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Now, what you know is that Q/t=const. Let's mark it with a letter a, but it doesn't really matter. Hence Q/t=a => Q=a*t.
You are also given specific heat capacity of solid lead. You have the additional data on solid lead in thae last part of your sentence, where it cools down from 600K to 595. Now, mass during cooling als remains constant. Now, since you know how fast the solid lead cooled down from 600K to 595K and you can calculate the amount of heat Q''' neaded for this, you can calculate our 'a', since Q/t remains constant. Now, having this, you can calculate everything else.
 
So Q=140*10? Thats not what your saying i doubt but I am not sure on what a is exactly?
Q=mc*deltaT i have m and delta T and c so i found Q to be 2100 for the first cooling but this is not constant is it?
 
pat666 said:
So Q=140*10? Thats not what your saying i doubt but I am not sure on what a is exactly?
Q=mc*deltaT i have m and delta T and c so i found Q to be 2100 for the first cooling but this is not constant is it?

You calculated the heat lost by the solid lead whilst it cooled.The rate of heat loss will be your value(2100J) divided by the time(8.4s).This tells you how much heat is lost in one second and the question tells you to assume that this rate has remained constant.
 
arrrrr ok thanks that makes sense
 
hey for the answers did yous get a)-210J/s ,B)-2100J/kg and c) 117.6J/(kg*K)
 
I get a) 2100 / 8.4 = 250J/s
b) Lf = Q/m = 2100 / 3 = 700 J/kg
c) I am unsure of tho... would it be c = Q/m deltaT = 700 / 3 x 278 = 0.84 J/kgK
 
a) 2100/10
you used all the times in the wrong sections i think
 
I was unsure of which instance of cooling to use but the two posters previously mentioned the second instance of cooling which took 8.4s.

Also, how did you get your answer for c? Did you do anything similar to me?
 
  • #10
2100J is Q for the temperature drop from 605K to 600K which took 10s. for that you used the SHC of solid lead ---- so t has to be 10s. making your part b wrong and your part c wrong.dont know what you did for c, but what i did was
Q/t=-210j/s and the time it took to cool was 8.4s (thats where 8.4 is used) so Q=-210*8.4s from there q=mcdelta T calculate c...

you agree with that?,,,,,,, I am not absolutely sure on this but it seems logical.
 
  • #11
ok i see where i went wrong i found the wrong Q(i used the SHC of solid lead when it was liquid././ stupid), now i think your a) is right but my procedure for c) is right i think..
 
  • #12
Hello folks.I think you might see this problem more clearly if you sketch a graph of how the temperature varies with time.Your graph has three sections:
1.In the first ten seconds there is liquid lead only and its temperature is dropping.
2.At ten seconds the liquid starts to solidify and the temperature levels off.It takes three hundred seconds for all of the liquid to change to solid.
3.When all of the liquid has solidified the temperature stars to drop again

Look again at the third section of the graph.The heat lost =3*140*5=2100J.
This heat is lost in 8.4s so the heat lost in 1 second=2100/8.4=250W(J/s)
Knowing how much heat is lost in one second you can calculate how much heat is lost by the liquid lead in the first ten seconds and by the lead whilst it is changing to a solid in the next three hundred seconds.You can take it from there.
 
  • #13
ur answers are all different to mine
i got a) -250J/s b) -25000J/kg c) 166.67J/kg/K
Its Tony btw
 
  • #14
tony your a is definitely right I am redoing b and c. so ill tell you if i agree once i have done them
 
  • #15
Hey Tony,

After all the advise, I re-did section b and c.

Bingo... I get the same :)

Thanks for all your help guys!
 
  • #16
Yea i got the same - once i fixed my mistake.
 
  • #17
hey pat wat did u get for the US submarine's velocity in question 2b.
 
  • #18
fricken huge 65m/s but that's right!
 
  • #19
lol i got 68.52 m/s
 
  • #20
yeah i rounded that right
 

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