How Do You Calculate Speed and Angular Acceleration in Rigid Body Kinematics?

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The discussion revolves around calculating speed and angular acceleration in the context of rigid body kinematics, specifically involving a wheel with a rope and a load. The original poster presents a problem where the position of the body is defined by a cubic function of time, and seeks to determine the speed and acceleration of both the load and a point on the lever connected to the wheel.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the speed and acceleration of the load and the wheel's tangential properties. There are discussions on deriving equations from the position function and determining time based on the distance moved by the load. Some participants question the correctness of the derived equations and seek clarification on the definitions of speed and acceleration.

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Several participants have provided guidance on deriving speed and acceleration from the position function. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the calculations and the relationships between different components of motion. While some participants express confidence in their calculations, others emphasize the need for careful consideration of definitions and units.

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Participants note the importance of the rope being unstretchable and the implications of this on the relationships between the various speeds and accelerations. There is also mention of the need to calculate time based on the distance the load descends, which is tied to the number of revolutions of the wheel.

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What is solution to this problem any help is appreciated. Thanks

Around wheel that can rotate around a horizontal axis is coiled (reeled) light unstretchable rope whose other end is tied load P. The position of the body is determined at all time with coordinate z =(pi)t³/3. Determine current speed and angular acceleration of wheel at point in time after nine revolutions if the wheel radius is r = 4 cm. Determine the speed and acceleration of point B of lever end AB = L = 20 cm, which rotates together with the wheel.

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Remember the rope does not stretch. How are the speed and acceleration of the load related to the speed and tangential acceleration of a point on the rim?

ehild
 
There are the same but what are equations used in solving problem?
 
Find the velocity and acceleration of the load first, from its displacement as function of time.

ehild
 
Like this? z =(pi)t³/3
z=(9*180)t³/3
z=540 t³
z'=Vp=3*540 t²

speed of load Vp=1620 t²

z''=ap=2*1620 t

acceleration of load ap=3240 t

angular speed ω=Vp/r=1620 t²/4

ω=405 t²

angular acceleration

ω'=3240 t/r

ω'=810 tspeed of B Vb=AB*ω

Vb=20*405 t²
acceleration of B
ab=AB*ω²

ab=20*(405t²)²
Is this true or if not how it's done. Help
 
pi is the number pi=3.1415926..., you can not change it to anything. Determine both the v(t) and a(t) functions by derivation of z(t) with respect to time, using the original formula, z=(pi)t3/3.

During 9 revolutions, a length of rope L equal to 9 times the circumference of the wheel moved off. What is the circumference of the wheel? So the load attached to the rope moved down by this length, L, and z = L. Calculate the time needed to this from the formula L=(pi)t3/3 and plug in for t in the equations of velocity and acceleration.

ehild
 
L=9*2rpi=9*2*4*3.14=226.08

226.08 =3.14t³/3

t=6 sec

z =(pi)t³/3

v(t)=(3(pi)t²)/3

v(t)=(3*3.14 6²)/3=113.04

a(t)=(3*2*(pi))t/3

a(t)=(2*2*3.14*6)/3=25.12

angular speed ω=v/r=113.04/4=28.26

angular velocity ω=a/r=25.12/4=6.28

Speed of B is Vb=ω*AB=28.26*20=565.2

Velocity of B is a=ω²*AB=6.28²*20=788.768

I this now OK? Thanks for your help
 
The speed is the magnitude of the velocity. You need acceleration, do not mix it with velocity. The tangential acceleration divided by r gives the angular acceleration. The acceleration has both centripetal component and tangential one, which are perpendicular. The magnitude of the resultant acceleration is √(acp2+at2)
Take this into account when you determine the acceleration either of the rim, or of point B.

And do not forget to write out the units.

Otherwise your work is basically all right now.

ehild
 
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I will mark first derivative with ' so ω'-angular acceleration and ω-angular speed.

So derivation of z(t) with respect to time gives speed of load and acceleration of load which is tangential acceleration of wheel. From tangential acceleration I can find angular acceleration of wheel ω'=a/r. And from speed of load I can find angular speed ω=V/r. After that I can find centripetal component as a=rω². Then I can find magnitude of the resultant acceleration as √(acp²+at²). For B speed is Vb=ωAB and acceleration is

tangential acceleration a=ABω'
centripetal acceleration a=ABω²

Is this true?

I'm not good with special characters so sorry for this kind of typing.

Thanks I appreciate your help.
 
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It is all right, well done!

ehild
 
  • #11
Thanks a lot for your time and effort

Best regards
 

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