How Do You Derive Euler's Equation of Motion for a Rigid Body?

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The discussion revolves around deriving Euler's equation of motion for a rigid body, specifically the equation $$\dot{\vec{L}} + \vec{\omega} \times \vec{L} = \vec{G}$$. Participants explore the concepts of angular momentum, rotational frames, and the implications of different reference systems in the context of rigid body dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the equation and the relationship between angular momentum in inertial and non-inertial frames. Questions arise about the nature of time derivatives in different frames and the implications of instantaneous coincidence of frames. The concept of the transport theorem is also introduced, with distinctions made between reference systems and coordinate systems.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the transport theorem and its application to the problem. Some participants are questioning the assumptions made about the relationship between different observers and their coordinate systems, while others are exploring the implications of these relationships on the understanding of angular momentum.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions of reference and coordinate systems, as well as the treatment of angular momentum in different frames. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the instantaneous coincidence of frames and how that affects the interpretation of vectors and their derivatives.

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CAF123 said:
Does this mean that relative to any other frame, ##T' = \frac{1}{2}(I_1'w_1'^2 + I_2'w_2'^2 + I_3'w_3'^2)##
No. The generic formula is ##T = \frac 1 2 \vec L \cdot \vec \omega = \frac 1 2 (I\vec \omega)\cdot \vec \omega##. This reduces to your simpler form only in the special case where the inertia tensor is diagonal.
One grad student I was talking to said that the topic of rigid body motion was overall more difficult to comprehend than some of the research he was working on. I guess that is not very encouraging, but it puts your point into perspective.
One reason it's confusing is because rotations in three dimensional space don't commute. I didn't attain a true understanding of rigid body motion until I learned about Lie groups.
 

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