How Do You Calculate the Maximum Vertical Height on an Inclined Plane?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum vertical height a block reaches on an inclined plane after sliding down a frictionless track. The block's mass is denoted as m, with a coefficient of kinetic friction μk = 0.30 and an incline angle θ = 45°. The energy conservation principle is applied, leading to the equation Mgymax = mgh - μkCos(θ)∆x. Participants clarify the definitions of variables and the correct application of energy methods to derive the maximum height.

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Determining maximum vertical height

A block slides down a curved frictionless track and then up an inclined plane. The mass of the block is the point mass m. The coefficient of friction between the block and the incline is μk = 0.30 Use energy methods to find the maximum vertical height up the plane that the block reaches for θ = 45°, and h = 0.65 m.

Mgymax = mgh-Wfk
Mgymax = mgh- μkCos θ ∆x
ymax = h- μkCos θ ∆x

This is about how far I have come. Not sure if it is right though.

I am not sure if ∆x should actually be ∆y or if either should be in the problem.

I am seeking a direction on what to do next to complete this problem. I appreciate any help.
 
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It seems that something is missing from your description of the problem ... presumably \theta is the angle of the inclined plane to the vertical (or is it horizontal?); but what's h?
 
Well i suppose that theta is the angle of the incline with the horizontal. Let's suppose that h is the vertical height from which we start on the curved trajectory...

At the point where the incline starts we have from energy-conservation :

mgh = \frac{mv^2}{2}

Then we move up the plane until vertical distance h_{max}

energyconservation yields :
\frac{mv^2}{2} = mgh_{max} - {\mu}N{\Delta p} Where the delta p denotes the traveled distance of the object ON the inclined plane. ofcourse, using trigon. we know that h_{max} = \Delta p * sin(45) so we can eliminate delta p and write all as a function of h_max...

But personally i think that there should be a least one parameter that you can vary in order to solve the extremum-problem...you sure about this question...


regards
marlon
 
Not to pick nits, but ...

Is that vertical height as opposed to horizontal height? :wink:
 
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