How Do You Calculate the Natural Angular Frequency of a Dual-Spring System?

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The problem involves calculating the natural angular frequency of a dual-spring system modeled by a modified baby bouncer. The system includes two springs with given stiffness values and a mass, with additional parameters related to damping and geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the natural angular frequency formula and question how to approach the combination of two springs. There is uncertainty about whether to consider damping in the calculation and how to handle the provided parameters.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications on the problem statement and the relevant equations. There is ongoing exploration of whether the problem requires a damped or undamped frequency calculation. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original problem statement may lack completeness, and there is a suggestion that the integer result from calculations may not require rounding. The discussion includes a reminder about the importance of quoting results accurately.

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Homework Statement


The suspension of a modified baby bouncer is modeled by a model spring AP with stiffness k1 and a model damper BP with damping coefficient r. The seat is tethered to the ground, and this tether is modeled by a second model spring PC with stiffness k2.

The bouncer is suspended from a fixed support at a height h above the floor.

Determine the natural angular frequency of the system to two decimal places.

Values of k1, k2 and m are given.

Homework Equations


  1. I know natural angular frequency ω = √(k/m)

The Attempt at a Solution


With one fixed spring, I can find ω, but not sure what happens with two fixed springs. I tried adding k1 and k2 together, but got an integer answer that requires no rounding.
 
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umzung said:
to two decimal places.
Can't be done with the given information. You sure this is the actual, complete problem statement ?
 
The full problem statement is as follows:

The suspension of a modified baby bouncer is modeled by a model spring AP with stiffness k1 and a model damper BP with damping coefficient r. The seat is tethered to the ground, and this tether is modeled by a second model spring PC with stiffness k2. Model the combination of baby and seat as a particle of mass m at a point P that is a distance x above floor level.

The bouncer is suspended from a fixed support at a height h above the floor. The suspending spring has natural length l1, while the tethering spring has natural length l2. Take the origin at floor level, with the unit vector i pointing upwards.

  1. the equation of motion of the mass is
    mx ̈+rx ̇ +(k1 +k2)x=k1(h−l1)+k2l2 −mg.
  2. In SI units,suppose that m=8, k1 =130, k2 =70, r=40, h=2,
    l1 = 0.75 and l2 = 0.75. Determine the natural angular frequency of the system to two decimal places.
 
Much better. Even better if you also learn a little ##\TeX## to typeset the equations:$$m\dot x + r\dot x + (k_1+k_2)x = k_1(h-l_1)+k_2l_2 - mg$$ (using the subscript buttons is intermediate :smile:).

Your relevant equation applied to the undamped sytem. You want to decide if the exercise asks for the damped natural frequencey or the undamped one.

umzung said:
got an integer answer that requires no rounding.
In itself, that's not a problem: just quote the result as e.g. 4.00 radians/s :rolleyes:
 
I have a similar question how did you find the natural angular frequency?
 
H07715 said:
I have a similar question how did you find the natural angular frequency?
:welcome:

It's probably best to open your own homework thread.
 
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