How Do You Calculate the Net Force on a Ball in Flight?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net force acting on a ball in flight, considering gravitational force and air resistance. The problem involves understanding vector components and their contributions to net force in a two-dimensional context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of vertical and horizontal components of forces, questioning the necessity of a horizontal component for the net force. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the angles and force components, particularly regarding gravitational force.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on vector addition and component analysis. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of force directions and the necessity of horizontal components in the context of motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the gravitational force's components and the implications of the ball's motion on the horizontal axis. There is a reference to an answer key that suggests a specific net force value, which raises questions about the calculations leading to that result.

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1. A ball is flying through the air, and at a given point in the flight, the ball is submitted to a gravitational force: F(g) = 1,5 N [downwards] and air resistance: F(air) = 0,50 N [32° above the horizontal]. Calculate the net force on the ball.


2. F (nette) = m x a



3. I thought I might have to find the vertical and horizontal components of the air resistance, so I found:
sin32 x 0,5N = 0,26N = x
cos32 x 0,5N = 0,42N = y

I also tried calculating the mass of the ball, in case it might prove useful:
Fg = m x g
1,5N = 9,8m
0,153 kg = m


But after calculating these values, I'm at a loss of what to do next. How do you find out the net force without having the other force on the horizontal axis? How can I use this data to calculate the net force? The answer key in my book says it should be 1,3N [71° under the horizontal], but I have no idea how this answer was achieved. I would be grateful for any help in solving this problem.
 
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Panzer22 said:
I thought I might have to find the vertical and horizontal components of the air resistance, so I found:
sin32 x 0,5N = 0,26N = x
cos32 x 0,5N = 0,42N = y
You have the x and y components interchanged.

How do you find out the net force without having the other force on the horizontal axis?
Why should it have a non-zero horizontal component?

How can I use this data to calculate the net force?
Think of it this way: "Downwards" is 270 degrees away from the positive x-axis. Can you find the components of the gravitational force now?
 
neutrino said:
Why should it have a non-zero horizontal component?

If the ball is in movement, shouldn't the horixontal component be non-zero?

And what does it being 270 degrees away from the positive x-axis have to do with it?
 
To find the net force just add the two force vectors. You know what their components are along each direction.

And what does it being 270 degrees away from the positive x-axis have to do with it?
I was just trying to show you that the horizontal component of the gravitational force is zero.
 

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