How Do You Calculate the Probability of (C U A) Given (C n A)?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the conditional probability of the union of two events, C and A, given their intersection. The original poster provides specific probabilities and seeks clarification on the correct approach to manipulate these probabilities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of conditional probability and the relationships between the union and intersection of events. There are attempts to clarify the correct formulation of the problem and to simplify expressions involving these probabilities.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, including the correct application of the conditional probability formula. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of including additional events, such as event B, in the context of the problem.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the inclusion of a third event, B, in the Venn diagram, although it is noted that it does not affect the current calculations involving events A and C.

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Given: P(A)= .4, P(B)=.3, P(A n B)=.11, P(C| not A)=.5

If P(C U A) = .66, then find P[(C U A) | (C n A)].

I have been trying to manipulate this thing for a while now with no luck.
Could you try and show the work if not that's alright, I'll work it out.
Thanks.
 
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Well, there are a few ways to do it. What is the equation for conditional probability P(F|G), say?

Alternatively, what are the definitions of C u A and C n A? You want to find the probability that C u A occurs given that C n A has occurred. Or, you want to find the probability that x is in the union of C and A given that it is in the intersection of C and A.

(This seems a bit easy; are you sure you've written the question correctly?)
 
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That would be, P(F|G) = P(F n G)/P(G)

This is the correct question. It is just throwing me off that it is the conditional probability of the union and intersection of two events instead of just the conditional probability of two events.

I've gotten as far as: P[(C U A) n (C n A)] / P(C n A).

Is that correct.
 
Yes. Now, can you simplify (C u A)n(C n A)? If you can't straight away, try drawing a venn diagram.

Remember, if x is in (C u A)n(C n A), then x is in C u A and C n A.
 
P[(C U A) n (C n A)] = P(C n A)?
(C n A) is a subset of (C U A)?

So then the equation would be P(C n A) / P(C n A)?

Is that why you said it seems too easy or is this wrong?
 
Yes, that's correct, which is why I thought you made a mistake writing the question up.

Intuitively, P[(C U A) | (C n A)] is the probability that C happens, or A happens, or they both happen, given that C and A have both happened, and so this must equal 1!
 
Does it make a difference though that there are three events: A, B, and C. When drawing the Venn Diagram I also have to take event B into consideration also right, or that still does not make a difference.
 
It doesn't make a difference. We are only considering A and C in this case. If you've drawn a Venn diagram with the 3 sets, then that's fine, but to tell whether x is in the intersection of A and C, we do not need to know whether it is in B or not.
 
You are much appreciated. While I have you here and if your up for it, I doubt this is challenging for you but could you check this work.

There are 6 males and 4 females awaiting to see a teller at a bank.
It is the end of the day and there is only one teller, so only 4 of the people can be served one-at-a-time.

1) How many ways can four of the people be picked and served one at a time, if they must include two(2) men and two(2) women?

Solution: (6c2) * (4c2) = 90


2) If indeed the four people are picked randomly, what is the probability that the four will include two (2) men and two (2) women?

Solution: (6c2) * (4c2) / (10c4) = 3/7 = .428571
 

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