How Do You Calculate the Volume of a Solid Rotated Around y=1?

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The problem involves calculating the volume of a solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the curves y=x² and x=y² around the line y=1. Participants are exploring the application of the disk/washer method for this volume calculation.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, identifying the outer and inner radii for the volume calculation. There is an exploration of the integration limits and the correct formulation of the area of cross-section. Some participants express confusion over negative volume results and seek clarification on the method used.

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Some participants have identified errors in their initial calculations and have adjusted their approach by correctly incorporating the distance from the line y=1 into their radius calculations. There is ongoing exploration of the disk/washer method, with references to similar problems for context.

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Participants note that the chapter they are studying focuses on the disk/washer method, which may limit their exploration of alternative methods like the shell method. There is also mention of specific intersection points and the necessity to account for the line y=1 in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified line.

y=x2
x=y2
Rotated about y=1

Homework Equations


Area of cross-section (in this case, a disk) = A(x) = π(outer radius)2 - π(inner radius)2
Volume = V = ∫A(x) dx

The Attempt at a Solution


calc_prob1_zpsqqcr6ens.png

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yellow line => y=x2
red line => x=y2

I converted x=y2 to y=√x

The outer-radius is y=x2
The inner-radius is x=√x
The intersection points of the two graphs is (0,0) and (1,1)

So A(x) = π(x2)2 - π(√x)2 = π(x4-x)

So V = ∫A(x)dx = π ∫ [ (1/5)x5 - (1/2)x2 ]dx integrated at (x=0 to x=1) = -3π/10 ...

However the volume can't be negative and the correct answer is 11π/30

Any help? The book shows the same graph and same intersection points, but I am getting the wrong answer.
 
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dlacombe13 said:

Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified line.

y=x2
x=y2
Rotated about y=1

Homework Equations


Area of cross-section (in this case, a disk) = A(x) = π(outer radius)2 - π(inner radius)2
Volume = V = ∫A(x) dx

The Attempt at a Solution


calc_prob1_zpsqqcr6ens.png

[/B]
yellow line => y=x2
red line => x=y2

I converted x=y2 to y=√x

The outer-radius is y=x2
The inner-radius is x=√x
The intersection points of the two graphs is (0,0) and (1,1)

So A(x) = π(x2)2 - π(√x)2 = π(x4-x)

So V = ∫A(x)dx = π ∫ [ (1/5)x5 - (1/2)x2 ]dx integrated at (x=0 to x=1) = -3π/10 ...

However the volume can't be negative and the correct answer is 11π/30

Any help? The book shows the same graph and same intersection points, but I am getting the wrong answer.

You want to use the shell method here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_integration
 
Thank you for you're reference, I read it and sort of get how it works. However this chapter I am in does not show me that method yet, and only shows the disk/ washer method that I attempted, so it must be solvable using that method. In fact, there is an almost identical problem using y=x2 and y=x revolved around the x-axis (y=0) that uses this method and it works. Any help trying to solve it using this method?
 
Turns out I found out what I was doing wrong. I had to subtract 1 (y=1) from each of the outer and inner radius. So the inner radius is π(1-x2)2 and the outer radius is π(1-√x)2. When I integrated the difference of these two at 1 and 0 I got 11π/30.
 
dlacombe13 said:
Turns out I found out what I was doing wrong. I had to subtract 1 (y=1) from each of the outer and inner radius. So the inner radius is π(1-x2)2 and the outer radius is π(1-√x)2. When I integrated the difference of these two at 1 and 0 I got 11π/30.
I think you have something close to the right idea.

Actually, the radii are: ##\ 1-x^2 \ ## and ##\ 1-\sqrt{x\,}\ ##. However, y = x2 is the lower curve (farther away from y = 1), so ##\ 1-x^2 \ ## is the outer radius.
 

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