How Do You Calculate Theoretical Reaction Time in Enzyme Experiments?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the theoretical reaction time in enzyme experiments, specifically focusing on catalase and hydrogen peroxide reactions. Participants explore the relationship between enzyme concentration, substrate concentration, and reaction time, while addressing the complexities of reaction kinetics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experiment with varying concentrations of catalase and hydrogen peroxide, seeking to calculate the theoretical reaction time.
  • Another participant suggests starting from rate laws and integrating them to find the time required to consume hydrogen peroxide, noting that theoretically, the time could equal infinity.
  • Concerns are raised about the high concentrations of catalase used, with a suggestion that the participant may be using a diluted solution rather than pure catalase.
  • There is a discussion about the reaction order, with some participants agreeing that it is a second-order reaction, but emphasizing the need for calculus to perform calculations.
  • A participant shares their calculations of the molarity of hydrogen peroxide and questions how to calculate the molarity of catalase, seeking clarification on its role as a catalyst.
  • Participants discuss the equation for reaction rate and the variables involved, with uncertainty expressed about how to determine the rate value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the catalase concentrations used and whether the catalase is indeed pure or pre-diluted. There is no consensus on the exact method for calculating theoretical reaction time, and multiple approaches are suggested.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for calculus knowledge to perform certain calculations, and there are unresolved questions about the initial concentrations and dilution effects on catalase. The discussion includes assumptions about reaction order and the definitions of variables in the rate equation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students conducting enzyme experiments, particularly those interested in reaction kinetics and the mathematical modeling of chemical reactions.

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I'm doing an EEI on enzymes. I'm using catalase and hydrogen peroxide to produce oxygen. The oxygen is then collected into a measuring cylinder. My three variables are the concentration of catalase, concentration of hydrogen peroxide and the temperature of both. Increasing the concentration of catalase is supposed to speed up the reaction, which it has, but it is meant keep the amount of oxygen produced the same, which it also has. I have calculated the theoretical yield and our actual yield is really close. My question is, how do you calculate the theoretical time the reaction should occur for. I asked my teacher if there is a way to do it and he said that there is however it is beyond a high school kid. I get A+'s in chemistry and top the class, so I would really like to impress him by being able to calculate the theoretical time of each reaction.
Catalase concentrations are 5%, 10%...30% with 1% hydrogen peroxide, both kept at 40°C.

Thanks for your help
 
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thestudent101 said:
Catalase concentrations are 5%, 10%...30%

Really that high?

In general you should start from rate laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_law), integrate them to find out amount of hydrogen peroxide consumed as a function of time, then calculate how long it will take consume all hydrogen peroxide present.

You will find that this time theoretically equals infinity. In reality observable reaction goes till the concentration of the hydrogen peroxide falls below some level, but what "some" means in this context depends on many things like concentration, oxygen solubility in the solution, mixing and so on.

It will be much easier to calculate time required to reach 99% or even 99.9%.
 
Thankyou for replying and sorry for not replying back quickly. Anyway about the catalase concentrations. Do you think that they are too high? They have been mixed with 1% hydrogen peroxide. And the mean time for each set of experiments has decreased in a fairly linear fashion, starting from 11.3s with 5% and going down to 3.3s with 30%.

I've had a look at the wikipedia site you suggested. I sort of understand it. From what I can gather this is a second order reaction? But I'm really not sure how to actually calculate anything.
 
thestudent101 said:
Anyway about the catalase concentrations. Do you think that they are too high?

I am sure they are. What you have listed is mots likely result of dilution calculation that assumes you used a pure catalase. That's not the case. You have not used a pure catalase, but an already diluted solution. To calculate the real concentration you should know initial concentration and calculate its concentration after dilution.

I've had a look at the wikipedia site you suggested. I sort of understand it. From what I can gather this is a second order reaction? But I'm really not sure how to actually calculate anything.

Yes, this is a second order reaction. Unfortunately, to calculate anything you would need at least some basic knowledge of calculus (unless you will be able to find the integrated forms of equations).
 
I watched a youtube video on rate laws, it helped a fair bit. What I have done so at the moment is calculated the molarity of hydrogen peroxide used with each set of tests. The first with 1.66mL (1%) is 4.18x10^-3 mol, the second using 3.33mL (2%) is 8.4x10^-3 and so on...But I'm unsure on how to calculate the catalase. My teacher said that it was a bottle of pure catalase. Why do you think its been pre-diluted? Anyway, if it was originally 100% concentration, and I calculated the molarity of the catalase, where does that come into the equation, because it acts as a catalyst only?
For the equation r=k(A)^m*(b)^n
Is the b value the molarity of catalase?
And I'm also unsure on how to calculate the r value. For 1% hydrogen peroxide it took on average 11.3s before the reaction appeared to have stopped. Also I do have basic knowledge with calculus, I also study maths B and C. Thanks again.
 

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