How Do You Calculate Wire Tension in the Hanging Bowling Balls Problem?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in wires supporting two hanging bowling balls, each with a specified weight and diameter. The setup involves analyzing forces acting on the balls, particularly the tension in the wires and the gravitational force acting downward.

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  • Participants explore trigonometric relationships to determine the tension in the wires, questioning the correctness of their calculations and assumptions about the angles involved. There is a focus on the vertical and diagonal components of the tension force.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the relationships between the forces, with discussions evolving around the correct application of trigonometric functions. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the role of the diameter of the balls in the calculations.

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Participants note that the problem includes specific measurements, such as the diameter of the balls, which some feel may be relevant but have not yet integrated into their calculations. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the forces acting on the balls.

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Two identical, perfectly smooth 71.2 {\rm N} bowling balls 21.7 {\rm cm} in diameter are hung together from the same hook in the ceiling by means of two thin, light wires, as shown in the figure. The balls are touching with an angle of 50 degrees between the two wires split evenly between the balls.

find the tension in each wire:

i know that the top angle is 50 so each right triangle must be 25,65,90. the force opposing tension is gravity so if i find gravity i can change the sign and find tension. i did cos(65)*71.2 and got 30 Newtons. is this method correct?
 
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You are on track, but check your trig, geometry, and pythagorus...if the force opposing gravity is the vertical tension component, shouldn't the Tension in the ( diagonal ) cord be greater than that?
 
i think i see my mistake. should it be cos(25)*71.2 = 64.5 Newtons?
 
No-o. If the vertical component of the tension force is 71.2 N, as you stated, then the tension in the wire must be greater than 71.2 N.
 
kirby27 said:
the tension force is diagonal. 71.2 is the weight of each ball. here is the diagram:

http://i.imgur.com/Q5dXO.jpg
Draw a sketch of one of the balls and identify the forces acting on it. As you noted in your original post (I think), the gravity force of 71.2 N acts down, and the vertical component of the tension force, Ty, is 71.2 N, equal and opposite to the gravity force, correct? You have also correctly identified that the angle the cord makes with the vertical is 25 degrees. The resultant tension force acting along the diagonal is the unknown, T. Solve for T, using Trig. .
 
ok i think i got it. is it 71.2/cos(25) = 78.56?
 
kirby27 said:
ok i think i got it. is it 71.2/cos(25) = 78.56?
Yes. Call it 78.6. Newtons.
 
thank you very much
 
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the second part of the questions asks "Find the force the balls exert on each other." i think the only force they have on each other is the x component of tension. so I am guessing the answer is 78.6cos(65)=33.2. but the problem gives the diameter of the balls and i haven't used that number so i think I am doing something wrong
 
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kirby27 said:
the second part of the questions asks "Find the force the balls exert on each other." i think the only force they have on each other is the x component of tension. so I am guessing the answer is 78.6cos(65)=33.2. but the problem gives the diameter of the balls and i haven't used that number so i think I am doing something wrong
Your answer is correct. You don't need the ball diameter information.
 

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