How Do You Correctly Integrate the Delta Function in This Equation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the delta function within a specific equation involving an exponential and a sine function. Participants explore the implications of the delta function's properties in the context of definite integrals, particularly when the limits of integration coincide with the location of the delta function's spike.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to evaluate the integral and arrives at a solution involving the delta function, but questions the professor's additional factor of \(\frac{1}{2}\).
  • Another participant argues that the professor's answer is contestable, suggesting that the integration limits only encompass "half" of the delta spike, leading to a potentially undefined situation.
  • A different participant expresses surprise at the notion of integrating only half of the delta spike, indicating a lack of familiarity with this interpretation.
  • Further, another participant asserts that there are representations of the delta function that could yield different answers, ultimately suggesting that the correct answer is 'undefined'.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the evaluation of the integral or the implications of integrating the delta function. Multiple competing views regarding the treatment of the delta function and the resulting answers remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexities and potential ambiguities in defining the delta function within the context of definite integrals, suggesting that the mathematical treatment may depend on specific interpretations or representations of the delta function.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate:

[tex]\int_{-3}^{5} e^{-2t} sin(t-3) \delta(t-5) dt[/tex]


Homework Equations



[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(t) \delta(at-t_0) dt = \frac{1}{|a|}f(\frac{t_0}{a})[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]e^{-2(5)} sin (5-3) = e^{-10} sin (2)[/tex]

The solution given by the professor was:

[tex]\frac{1}{2} e^{-10} sin (2)[/tex]

I don't understand where he got the [tex]\frac{1}{2}[/tex] from.

If anyone could help me it would be greatly appreciated.
 
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It's a bit cheeky, and technically your professor's answer is contestable. Because your integration limits are only up to 5, and the delta function is delta(t-5), you've only integrated "half" of the delta spike. Now, if that sounds absurd -- "how the hell can you only integrate half of an infinitesimally thin spike?!" -- just remember that the delta function itself is not really very sensible as a function anyway. Personally, I treat that sort of integral as badly defined; more specifically, since I'm a physicist, I arrange my physics so that the maths never requires me to contemplate these soul-searching issues :wink:
 
Hm, interesting... I never knew that you integrate only half the delta spike.
 
user101 said:
Hm, interesting... I never knew that you integrate only half the delta spike.

You shouldn't. As genneth was pointing out, there are perfectly fine representations of the delta function in which you can get a completely different answer. The correct answer is 'undefined', with all due respect to the composer of the solutions.
 

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