How do you determine the u-factor of a window assembly?

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The discussion centers on determining the u-factor of a window assembly, focusing on the thermal resistance of various components such as glass and argon gas, and the complexities introduced by window frames. Participants explore the arithmetic and methodologies for calculating the u-value, considering both series and parallel thermal resistances.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to determine the u-factor for a window assembly, noting the complexity compared to wall assemblies.
  • Another participant explains that while glass layers can be treated in series, the frame introduces a parallel path for heat flow, complicating the calculation.
  • A suggestion is made to use an area-weighted average to account for different areas of the frame and glass when calculating overall thermal resistance.
  • One participant confirms that the u-value can be calculated using the formula U=1/Σr, provided the thermal resistance of each material is adjusted for its thickness.
  • Surface effects and coatings are mentioned as important factors that may complicate the calculation of u-values.
  • Participants discuss the objective of thermally broken frames, emphasizing their role in reducing heat flow and improving thermal performance.
  • Condensation issues on metal frames without thermal breaks are highlighted as a concern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of calculating thermal resistance for window assemblies and the role of thermally broken frames. However, there is no consensus on the best approach to account for surface effects and the complexities introduced by different materials and their configurations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential oversimplifications regarding surface effects and the assumption that the ratio of frame to glass remains constant for calculations. The discussion does not resolve how to incorporate these factors into the u-value calculations.

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How do you determine the u-factor of a window assembly? I understand that the u-factor is reciprocal of the sum of resistance (U=1/Σr) for wall assembles, but I’m unable to find any relevant arithmetic for windows. I understand that heat flow rates vary between the center of glass and frame, and that u-value of windows is representative of a whole system, but is there not an arithmetic means to determine the u-value at the center of the window? For example, let’s say I have a ¼” double pane glass with a ½” of argon gas between them (1” total thickness). What is the u-value of the glass at the center? Do I use U=1/Σr? Is that correct?
 
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A wall comprises several elements "in series" (eg the heat flows through plaster, then brick, then insulation etc). That's why you can add the thermal resistance.

In the case of a window it's more complicated. The glass part is similar (eg You have glass, argon, glass "in series") however there is another path in "parallel" through the frame. See equivalent electrical diagram attached. To find the overall thermal resistance you would apply the same rules that you would for calculating the equivalent resistance of an electrical circuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits).

However there is an additional complication. The values you have for the thermal resistance are probably quoted "per square meter". So you have to take into account that the frame and glass have different areas.

If you have already calculated the thermal resistance of the glass part "per square meter" then one way is you use an "area weighted average" to arrive at the thermal resistance "per square meter" for the combination.

In more complicated cases you have to calculate the actual resistance of each part by multiplying by the actual area of that part, then doing the series/parallel calculations and then finally dividing the end result by the total area to get back to an overall thermal resistance "per square meter". Just bear in mind that the end result is only valid if the ratio of frame to glass stays roughly the same. Clearly if you had a very small window that was all frame and no glass you couldn't use the same figure "per square meter" for the thermal resistance to calculate the heat loss.
 

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So just to answer this bit...

let’s say I have a ¼” double pane glass with a ½” of argon gas between them (1” total thickness). What is the u-value of the glass at the center? Do I use U=1/Σr? Is that correct?

In short Yes...

Google can find the thermal resistance of each material but it's specified "per meter thickness" so...

Work out the actual thermal resistance of each part by multiplying the thermal resistance of the material by it's thickness in meters.

Add them together eg..

Rtotal = Rglass + Rargon + Rglass

This gives you the thermal resistance for the 1" thickness.

Take the reciprocal to give the U Value.

Experts will complain it's more complicated because I have ignored surface effects. Coatings are very important these days to the performance of glass sealed units.
 
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This helps tremendously. I take it that the objective to thermally broken frames is to reduce the heat flow and improve the overall thermal performance. Let me attempt to apply this information and I may have more questions pertaining to this thread.
 
I take it that the objective to thermally broken frames is to reduce the heat flow and improve the overall thermal performance.

Yes.

It's particularly important for metal framed windows. Without a thermal break you can also get condensation on the metal frame inside.
 

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