How do you differentiate (x^2)^(ln[x])?

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the expression \((x^2)^{\ln x}\), with participants exploring various methods and approaches to tackle the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss rewriting the expression using properties of logarithms and exponentials, such as expressing \(x\) as \(e^{\ln x}\) and simplifying \(\ln(x^2)\) to \(2\ln x\). Questions arise regarding the correctness of these transformations and the implications for differentiation.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of the differentiation process, with some participants confirming the correctness of certain steps while others express confusion or seek clarification. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple approaches are being explored.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings related to LaTeX formatting and the mathematical properties of logarithms and exponents, which may affect their interpretations of the problem.

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differentiate (x2)lnx


im having a blonde moment...how do you start?
 
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Write x as [tex]e^{\ln x}[/tex].
 
ok so you mean write

eln(x2)^ln(x)

this gives me eln(x)*ln(x2)
 
Yes that's correct. You can write the part in the exponent slightly easier by using [itex]\ln x^2=2\ln x[/itex]. Now you just have to use the chain rule.
 
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Cyosis said:
can write the part in the exponent slightly easier by using [itex]\ln x^2=2\lnx[/itex].

how can you say this?
 
I 'said' that, because in the latex code I wrote 2\lnx, \lnx is not a command in latex so it doesn't recognize it. I added the space now so it becomes 2\ln x, which should display the correct result.

Edit: I see you edited post 3, but what you did there is not correct. [tex](x^2)^{\ln x}=(x)^{2 \ln x}=(e^{\ln x})^{\ln x^2}=e^{\ln x \ln x^2} \neq e^{(\ln x^2)^{\ln x}}[/tex].
 
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He didn't say it. (Unless he editted his post immediately after your response.) He said ln(x2)= 2ln(x).

On edit: And while I was typing this, he explained!

Using that
[tex](x^2)^{ln(x)}= e^{(ln(x))(2ln(x))}= e^{2(ln(x))^2}[/itex][/tex]
 
ok i got

e(2(lnx)2)

differentiating gives

(4lnx)/x * e(2(lnx)2)
 
Yes, that's right.

Another way to differentiate [itex]y= (x^2)^{ln x}[/itex] is to take the logarithm of both sides: [itex]ln(y)= ln((x^2)^{ln(x)}= ln(x)(ln(x)^2)= 2 (ln(x))^2[/itex]

Now, differentiating both sides with respect to x,
[tex]\frac{1}{y}y'= 4 ln(x)\frac{1}{x}[/tex]
[tex]y'= \frac{4 ln(x)}{x} y= \frac{4 ln(x)}{x}(x^2)^{ln(x)}[/tex]

(If you were given the problem as [itex](x^2)^{ln x}[/itex] it is probably better to write the answer using that rather than [itex]e^{2(ln x)^2}[/itex].)
 

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