How Do You Integrate the Rational Function ∫((x^2+x-7)/(x+3))dx?

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The discussion revolves around integrating the rational function ∫((x^2+x-7)/(x+3))dx, focusing on methods for simplifying the integration process.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods such as polynomial division and substitution. Some express uncertainty about how to apply these methods effectively, while others suggest different approaches to simplify the integral.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the integration process, with some participants offering guidance on polynomial division and substitution techniques. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and methods without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Some participants mention the importance of polynomial division for rational functions and question the feasibility of factoring the numerator. There are also discussions about the complexity of the integration process and the potential use of substitutions.

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Homework Statement


Integrate the following:


Homework Equations


∫(x^2+x-7)/(x+3)


The Attempt at a Solution


The only way I can think of solving this would be to split up each term into a separate fraction.
 
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whatlifeforme said:

Homework Statement


Integrate the following:


Homework Equations


∫(x^2+x-7)/(x+3)


The Attempt at a Solution


The only way I can think of solving this would be to split up each term into a separate fraction.

It's easier if you do the polynomial division. Divide (x^2+x-7) by (x+3).
 
how would i do that? i tried to separate the numerator into a product of two terms (x+3)(another term)... but that doesn't work.
 
whatlifeforme said:
how would i do that? i tried to separate the numerator into a product of two terms (x+3)(another term)... but that doesn't work.

No, factoring doesn't work. Hopefully you learned polynomial division at some point and then forgot you knew it. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial_long_division
 
whatlifeforme said:
how would i do that? i tried to separate the numerator into a product of two terms (x+3)(another term)... but that doesn't work.

Why not substitute u = x+3 and do a u-integration instead?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Why not substitute u = x+3 and do a u-integration instead?

Wouldn't that be a little too long as the numerator is not directly divisible by x+3?? or is there any shortcuts
 
so i would have:

1. ∫(x+3)(x-2) - 1 / (x+3)
2. ∫(x-2) - ∫1/(x+3) [i'm not sure how to take this integral though]
 
whatlifeforme said:
so i would have:

1. ∫(x+3)(x-2) - 1 / (x+3)
2. ∫(x-2) - ∫1/(x+3)

Yep that should work :)
 
whatlifeforme said:
[i'm not sure how to take this integral though]

Use a substitution of u=x+3, du=dx. A general rule of thumb is that if L is a linear function of x, then integrating

[tex]\int\left(f\left(L\left(x\right)\right)\right) \cdot\mathrm{d}x[/tex]

is a matter of making a simple substitution. Another thing I've learned is that when integrating functions, try making any substitutions which might simplify it and see where they get you, unless you're almost certain they won't get you anywhere.
 
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whatlifeforme said:
so i would have:

1. ∫(x+3)(x-2) - 1 / (x+3)
2. ∫(x-2) - ∫1/(x+3) [i'm not sure how to take this integral though]

Same advice as to Hysteria X. Write ((x+3)(x-2)-1)/(x+3). That's what you really meant. That's the polynomial division part alright. The first integral is easy, the second is a substitution. Think 'log' for the actual integration.
 
  • #11
i have for the answer:

x^2 - 2x - ln(x+3) + c
 
  • #12
whatlifeforme said:
i have for the answer:

x^2 - 2x - ln(x+3) + c

I think the x^2 term is missing something.
 
  • #13
Ray Vickson said:
Why not substitute u = x+3 and do a u-integration instead?
For this integration, Ray's suggestion appears to be most straight forward. (I realize that in general it's important to know how to do long division when integrating a rational expression for which the degree of the numerator is equal to or greater than hte degree of the denominator.)

[itex]\displaystyle \int \frac{x^2+x-7}{x+3}\,dx[/itex]

Let u = x+3  → x = u-3  → dx = du  → x^2+x-7 = (u-3)^2+(u-3)-7 = u^2 - 5u - 1

The integral becomes [itex]\displaystyle\ \ \int \frac{ u^2 - 5u - 1<br /> }{u}\,du = \int (u-5-u^{-1})\,du[/itex]
 

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