How Do You Solve a Natural Logarithm Equation for Variable y?

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The discussion revolves around solving a natural logarithm equation for the variable y, specifically focusing on the equation 1 - e^(-0.15*10^-5*y) = 0.1. Participants are exploring the steps needed to isolate y and the appropriate use of logarithms in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation and requests assistance in finding the value of y, suggesting that the answer should be 70,240.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify the equation by rewriting it in various forms, indicating confusion about the correct interpretation of the equation.
  • A later post specifies the parameter lambda as (0.15*10^-5) and mentions a second equation where the expected answer for y is 666,667 when the equation equals 0.632.
  • One participant suggests using the natural logarithm (ln) as the inverse of the exponential function to solve for y, emphasizing the need to rearrange the equation appropriately.
  • Another participant expresses difficulty in obtaining the correct answer despite attempts to follow the guidance provided.
  • A final post indicates that one participant successfully resolved their confusion after receiving assistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the method to solve the equation, as participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the use of logarithms and the steps involved in isolating y.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps required to isolate y, and there is ambiguity regarding the interpretation of logarithmic functions in this context.

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hello,

I was trying to figure out what will be the y value for this equations:

1 - e^-0.15*10^-5*y = 0.1

Could somebody help me in this?? The answer is supposed to be 70,240.

thanks.
 
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alextsipkis said:
1 - e^-0.15*10^-5*y = 0.1

What does that mean?
1 - (e^-0.15)*(10^-5)*y = 0.1
1 - (e^-0.15)*(10^(-5*y)) = 0.1
1 - (((e^-0.15)*10)^-5)*y = 0.1
1 - e^(-0.15*(10^(-5*y))) = 0.1
1 - e^(-0.15*(10^-5)*y) = 0.1
1 - e^(-0.15*(10^(-5*y))) = 0.1
 
Sorry , i forgot to put the parenthesis. Here , it goes.. Hope it will be clear this time.

Note that the parameter lambda has this value:

lambda = (0.15*10^-5)

And i was trying to calculate,

(1 - e^(-lambda*y)) = 0.1 for y, and the answer is assumed to be 70,240.

Similarly,

1 - e^(-lambda*y) = 0.632, and the answer for this is supposed to be 666,667.


I am really confused how we get to this answer. I am not sure wether we use log or ln to get this answer.

thanks.
 
well, ln(x) is the inverse of the exponential function exp(x) == e^x, so you must use that. Rearrange it so that you just have e^(something) on one side of the equation, and apply ln to both sides (actually mathematicians often use log to mean ln, but calculators use ln to mean natural log, log to mean base 10 log).
 
I tried, but not getting the right answer.

Could somebody clear this confusion...

thanks.
 
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Thanks a lottttttttt gel...i got it right now... :-)
 

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