How Do You Solve an Exact Differential Equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving an exact differential equation, specifically the equation ( - 2xy^2 + 2y)dx + ( - 2x^2 y + 2x)dy = 0. Participants express confusion regarding the steps to find the solution and the role of integration in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the process of determining the solution to an exact differential equation, including the integration of the functions involved. Questions arise about which parts to integrate and how to handle constants of integration.

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The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the integration process and the implications of the exactness of the differential equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration of the original functions, but there remains uncertainty about how to proceed and the necessity of boundary conditions for determining specific constants.

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There is mention of confusion stemming from previous explanations and notes, as well as the challenge of finding specific values for constants without boundary conditions. Participants also note mistakes in their calculations, indicating a collaborative effort to correct misunderstandings.

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How do you determine a solution to a DE if you know the DE is exact? My professor (or possibly my notes) did a horrible job of explaining how to do it and the book does an even worse job explaining how to do it. For example, how would i go about solving this equation? I need to find c, the constant.

[tex]( - 2xy^2 + 2y)dx + ( - 2x^2 y + 2x)dy = 0[/tex]

I know that I differentiate each part by dx/dy and dy/dx to attain:

[tex]- 2xy + 2\frac{{dx}}{{dy}} = - 2xy + 2\frac{{dy}}{{dx}}[/tex]

But where do I go from that point?
 
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first you took the derivative wrong it should be -4xy+2

after that you would intergate and combine terms

can you do this
 
haha oops oh yah... missed that twice it seems.

Which part do i integrate?
 
you would integrate the original functions M and N

M = -2xy^2 + 2y dx

N = -2x^2y +2x dy
 
Ok they both integrate to be:

-x^2y^2+2xy

now what?
 
[tex]( - 2xy^2 + 2y)dx + ( - 2x^2 y + 2x)dy = 0[/tex]

[tex](-x^2y^2 + 2yx + c_1) + ( - x^2y^2 + 2xy + c_2 ) = 0[/tex]

[tex]-2x^2y^2 + 4yx + k = 0[/tex]

Edit: OOPS should be this:

[tex]k = 2x^2y^2 -4xy[/tex]

[tex]k= 2xy(xy - 2)[/tex]


I have no clue, I am just playing along here. Don't take what I post seriously. Do you have an idea of what the solution should look like? I don't see how you can get a specific value of c without any boundary conditions.
 
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Your original equation was
[tex]( - 2xy^2 + 2y)dx + ( - 2x^2 y + 2x)dy = 0[/tex]
That is an exact equation because (-2xy2+ 2y)y= -4xy+ 2 and (-2x2y+ 2x)x= -2xy+ 2 also.

What that means is that there exist a function F(x,y) such that
[tex]dF= \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}dy= (-2xy^2+ 2y)dx+ (-2x^2y+ 2x)dx[/tex]
(Above, we were checking the equality of the mixed second derivatives,
[tex]\frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x\partial y}= \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y\partial x}[/tex])

That is, we must have
[tex]\frac{\partial F}{\partial x}= -2xy^2+ 2x[/tex]
Integrate that, with respect to x since in a partial derivative you are treating y as a constant. Of course, the "constant of integration" might, in fact, be a function of y. Once you get that expression for F, differentiate with respect to y and set it equal to
[tex]\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= -2x^2y+ 2y[/tex] to determine what that "constant" must be.
In terms of that F, the equation just says "dF= 0" so F= constant is the general solution.
 
So I set [tex]- x^2 y^2 + x^2 + c = - 2x^2 y + 2y[/tex] ??
 

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