How do you tell the moving direction of a wave?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of propagation of a wave represented mathematically by expressions such as \(\exp(i k x)\) and \(\exp(-i k x)\). Participants explore the implications of these expressions in the context of wave functions, particularly in relation to time dependence and scattering in quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant notes that the expressions \(\exp(i k x)\) and \(\exp(-i k x)\) only specify the spatial part of the wave function, lacking time dependence, which complicates the determination of propagation direction.
  • Another participant questions the textbook's assertion that \(\exp(ikz)\) represents an incoming wave moving in the positive z direction, seeking clarification on the assumptions made in the text.
  • A later reply suggests that in the context of quantum mechanics, the time dependence is typically assumed to be of the form \(e^{-i \omega t}\), leading to complete wave functions that clarify the direction of propagation.
  • The general forms of wave functions are discussed, indicating that functions of the form \(f(x-vt)\) represent waves traveling in the positive x direction, while \(f(x+vt)\) represents waves traveling in the negative x direction.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the wave functions regarding their direction of propagation, and the discussion remains unresolved as to the assumptions underlying the textbook statements.

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There is an implicit assumption regarding the time dependence of the wave functions that is not explicitly stated in the initial expressions, which may lead to confusion about the direction of propagation.

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For a 1D plane wave written mathematically as

[tex]\exp(i k x)[/tex]

where i is sqrt(-1). k is the wavenumber. In many textbook, it reads this wave is moving to the right while [tex]\exp(-i k x)[/tex] is moving to the left. It is quite confusing. How do you tell that?
 
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Those expressions specify only the spatial part of the wave function. They don't contain any time dependence so you can't say anything about the direction of propagation without making further assumptions.
 
jtbell said:
Those expressions specify only the spatial part of the wave function. They don't contain any time dependence so you can't say anything about the direction of propagation without making further assumptions.

Thanks for reply. But why in the textbook, in the chapter about scattering, it keeps saying [tex]e^{ikz}[/tex] is the incoming wave propagate along positive z direction.
 
Which course is this, by the way? You mention scattering, so is this a quantum mechanics course?

In that case, they are probably assuming that the time dependence is [itex]e^{- i \omega t} = e^{- i E t / \hbar}[/itex]. In that case the complete wave functions are

[tex]e^{i(kx - \omega t)} = \exp \left[ ik \left( x - \frac{\omega}{k} t \right) \right]<br /> = \exp \left[ ik \left( x - v t \right) \right][/tex]

[tex]e^{i(-kx - \omega t)} = \exp \left[ -ik \left( x + \frac{\omega}{k} t \right) \right]<br /> = \exp \left[ -ik \left( x + v t \right) \right][/tex]

In general, a function of the form f(x-vt) represents a wave traveling in the +x direction, and f(x+vt) represents a wave traveling in the -x direction. These are the most general solutions to the differential wave equation in one dimension.
 

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