How does a laser rangefinder measure distances up to 20 km?

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The discussion centers on the mechanisms and principles behind laser rangefinders, particularly those used in military applications that can measure distances up to 20 kilometers. Participants explore the challenges of light attenuation and signal detection over long distances, as well as the technology enabling such measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that typical domestic laser rangefinders measure up to 50 meters, questioning how military versions can measure up to 20 kilometers despite light attenuation described by Beer's law.
  • Another participant suggests that under ideal conditions, visibility can extend to 40 kilometers or more, implying that distance measurement may be feasible.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that military laser rangefinders can accurately measure distances by firing lasers at the moon, which reflects the signal back over a distance of more than 760,000 kilometers, questioning why 20 kilometers would pose a challenge.
  • One participant claims to work with equipment that achieves an accuracy of 3mm over a 1km distance using a 2mW laser, implying that precision is achievable even at longer ranges.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility and challenges of measuring distances with laser rangefinders. There is no consensus on the specific mechanisms that allow for accurate measurements at long distances, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of light attenuation.

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Participants reference various conditions affecting visibility and signal detection, but the discussion does not clarify the specific assumptions or limitations of the technologies mentioned.

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Hello, I've known about average laser rangefinders that we can use for domestic needs. They're relatively cheap and can measure up to 50 meters but that's about it.

However, I've read that military laser rangefinders are able to measure distances using light up to 20 kilometers. How is that possible? By Beer's law light should be attenuated exponentially when traversing some medium, so how does a light travel 40 kilometers and can still be deciphered out of noise? Surely they're not firing high intensity pulses for these measurements?

I've read about it here in the applications section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_rangefinder
 
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DariusP said:
Summary: Laser rangefinder ability to measure long distances up to 20 km

However, I've read that military laser rangefinders are able to measure distances using light up to 20 kilometers.

easy ... they can fire a laser at the moon and get a good reflected signal to measure the distance accurately
over a return distance of more than 760,000 km, so why would 20 km be so difficult ?

Gear I work with can do an accuracy of 3mm over 1km ( 2km return path) with a 2mW laserDave
 
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DariusP said:
Summary: Laser rangefinder ability to measure long distances up to 20 km
so we never got a response from you
do you now see any reason for no difficulty measuring 20km ?
 

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