How Does a Moving Pulley Affect Acceleration and Tension in a Mechanics Problem?

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The problem involves a system with two masses connected by a string over a pulley, where the pulley has mass and rotates freely. The context is mechanics, specifically focusing on the effects of a moving pulley on acceleration and tension in the system.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the masses and the pulley, questioning how the pulley’s mass influences the common acceleration and the tension in the string. Some express uncertainty about the effects of the pulley’s motion on the overall system.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the pulley’s mass on both acceleration and tension. Some guidance has been offered regarding the role of energy transfer in the system, but no consensus has been reached on the specific effects.

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Participants note the complexity introduced by the pulley’s mass and its rotation, which may affect their calculations and understanding of the system dynamics. There is also mention of an upcoming exam, indicating the urgency of clarifying these concepts.

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A mass 4m lying on a rough horizontal table is connected by a string,
passing over a pulley, to another mass 3 m hanging freely. The pulley (regarded
as a disk) has mass 4 m and rotates freely about a polar axis parallel to the
edge of the table. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the mass and the
table is μ=3/8. Assuming that the string does not slip on the pulley, Find the
common acceleration of the masses and show that the ratio of the tensions in
the string on either side of the pulley is T1 : T2 = 13 : 15. (You may assume
that the moment of inertia of a disk of radius r and mass m about a polar axis
through the disk is I =1/2 M r^2)

[D] Attempt
acceleration

4mg-t=4a
t-3mg=3A

1g=7a
10=7a
a=10/7
a=1.428
Tension 2:
4m(g)=4m(10)=40m

3/8=T2/40 , 120/8 = T2 , T2=15m

Tension 1:
3(10)=30
am i on the right track?
Thanks for the help have a big exam and this is a common question , having problems with it because the pulley is moving and don't know how it effects the acceleration .solution would be fantastic !:shy:
 
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The force of gravity on the hanging mass will not only accelerate the system of masses, but also cause the pulley to rotate.
 
Thanks for your help ! so the pulley does not effect the common acceleration? does the pulley due to its mass have any bearing on the tension of the hanging mass?
 
It does effect the acceleration of the mass system because as the mass drops, energy is transferred into the pulley as well, instead of remaining in the system.
 

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