How Does a Time-Varying Force Affect Angular Momentum in a Dual-Radius Spool?

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A time-varying force of f = 2t N acts tangentially on a spool with dual radii R1 and R2, which is free to rotate on a horizontal surface. The angular momentum of the spool about its bottom point is calculated to be t^2(R1 + R2). Discussions highlight the importance of considering friction and the correct relationships between linear and angular quantities. Participants emphasize the need for clear algebraic presentation rather than images for problem-solving. The conversation concludes with one participant stating they have resolved the issue.
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Homework Statement



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a spool of radius R1 and R2 (R2>R1) is kept on hortizontal surface. A force f= 2t N (where t is time ) acts on the inner radius tagentially find the angular momentum of the system about the bottomost point of the spool.

Homework Equations


v=u+at
W=Wi+alpha(t)
L=IW+mvr

The Attempt at a Solution


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but the answer is t^2(R1+R2)
 
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Where is the pool fixed at the center or at the indicated point?
 
Let'sthink said:
Where is the pool fixed at the center or at the indicated point?
It's not fixed ...it's on the floor free to rotate and translate
 
Frankly, your work is illegible.

Nonetheless, could you give me the relation between ## \vec v## and ##\vec a##, and that between ##\vec α## and ##\vec ω##?
 
LemmeThink said:
Frankly, your work is illegible.

Nonetheless, could you give me the relation between ## \vec v## and ##\vec a##, and that between ##\vec α## and ##\vec ω##?
LemmeThink said:
Frankly, your work is illegible.

Nonetheless, could you give me the relation between ## \vec v## and ##\vec a##, and that between ##\vec α## and ##\vec ω##?
I solved it just used the wrong equations ...!
 
Yash123 said:
It's not fixed ...it's on the floor free to rotate and translate
but can you please solve iit jee paper 2 2016 rbd question
 
Yash123 said:

Homework Statement



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a spool of radius R1 and R2 (R2>R1) is kept on hortizontal surface. A force f= 2t N (where t is time ) acts on the inner radius tagentially find the angular momentum of the system about the bottomost point of the spool.

Homework Equations


v=u+at
W=Wi+alpha(t)
L=IW+mvr

The Attempt at a Solution


View attachment 107580
but the answer is t^2(R1+R2)
In your calculation of the linear acceleration you have ignored friction at the ground. Not sure if you did the same with the moments.
Please do not post working as images. Use images for diagrams and textbook extracts. Take the trouble to type in your algebra.
 
haruspex said:
In your calculation of the linear acceleration you have ignored friction at the ground. Not sure if you did the same with the moments.
Please do not post working as images. Use images for diagrams and textbook extracts. Take the trouble to type in your algebra.
I solved it
 
You say F = 2t what about direction? Then you want angular momentum at what time. If time varying force is acting neither the momentum nor angular momentum will be constant.
 
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Let'sthink said:
You say F = 2t what about direction? Then you want angular momentum at what time. If time varying force is acting neither the momentum nor angular momentum will be constant.
Thanks for the reply but I solved it
 
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