How Does Air Resistance Affect the Speed of a Falling Pine Cone?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of a pine cone falling from a height of 20 meters, specifically examining the effects of air resistance on its speed upon impact with the ground. The subject area includes concepts of gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and the influence of air resistance on motion.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy to determine the speed of the pine cone without air resistance. Some question the validity of using specific equations and seek clarification on their application. Others suggest calculating the average force of air resistance by comparing expected kinetic energy with actual impact speed.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering different methods and interpretations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculations of energy and the relationship between potential and kinetic energy, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to solve the problem.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of air resistance and how it alters the expected outcomes based on ideal conditions. There is also a mention of potential confusion regarding the setup of equations and the role of mass in the calculations.

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A 0.25 kg pine cone falls from a branch 20 m above the ground.

A) With what speed would it hit the ground if air resistance could be ignored?
m= 0.25 kg
g= 9.8 m/s^2
d= 20 m

Ep= (0.25kg)(9.8m/s^2)(20m)
= 49 J
Ek= 1/2mv^2
49J = 1/2(0.25kg)(v^2)
2(49 J = (0.5kg)(0.5 v^2))
98 J = (0.5 kg)(0.5 v^2)
-0.5 -0.5
97.5 J = 0.5 v^2
----------------
0.5 0.5
v^2 = 195
v = 14 m/s
can someone check this for me please?

part b)
If the pine cone actually hits the ground with a speed of 9.0 m/s, what was the average force of air resistance on it?

I am not sure how to solve this problem?
Can someone please walk me through it?
 
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For part a I get, using mgh=1/2mv^2, v=sqrt(2gh) = sqrt(2*20*9.8) = 19.8m/s

For part B. Work out the KE it hits the ground with, the KE it should have had, and so how much E is lost ot friction.
Then from Energy = force * distance, you can work out an average force.
 
is mgh=1/2mv^2=sqrt(2*20*9.8) a shortcut or is that the way that I should setup the problem from the start? What is the 2 for in the equation. I understand that 20 = h and 9.8 = g
 
anyone?
 
Kinetic energy = 1/2 m v^2.
Potential energy = m g h
If the object falls from rest (no initial velocity) and no energy is lost to friction, then the easiest way of working out the speed is to assume all the potential energy is converted to kinetic energy. Note that the mass of the object cancels out - the speed something falls at doesn't depend on it's mass.
 

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