How Does an RC Circuit Behave During Charging and Discharging?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of an RC circuit during the charging and discharging phases, specifically focusing on the voltage and current characteristics when a switch is manipulated in the circuit. Participants explore the implications of closing and opening the switch in relation to the resistor and capacitor's voltage drops and current flow.

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  • Participants pose questions regarding the voltage distribution across the resistor and capacitor at different moments, such as immediately after closing the switch and after a long duration. They also inquire about the behavior of the circuit when the switch is opened after a period of charging.

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Some participants affirm the correctness of initial assumptions regarding voltage distribution and current behavior. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships governing the circuit's behavior, with references to Kirchhoff's Voltage Law and differential equations. Multiple interpretations of the discharging process are being examined.

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Participants note the initial conditions of the circuit, such as whether the capacitor starts with an initial charge and the implications of introducing a bypass wire for discharging. The discussion also touches on the time constants involved in the charging and discharging processes.

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Let's say you have a circuit with a resistor, capacitor and voltage source and a switch.
I got a few questions.
1. The instant the switch is closed, the voltage drop would all be across the resistor right?
2. After a long time the switch is closed, the current would approach 0 and the voltage drop would be all across the capacitor?

The above is charging a capacitor.
Below is discharging
If we have the same circuit, except that the switch was initially closed for a long time then opened.
1. The voltage the instant the switch is opened would be all across the capacitor still right?
2. After a longtime when, the charge on the capacitor has diminished, how would you calculate the current/voltage across the resistor?
 
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pyroknife said:
Let's say you have a circuit with a resistor, capacitor and voltage source and a switch.
I got a few questions.
1. The instant the switch is closed, the voltage drop would all be across the resistor right?
2. After a long time the switch is closed, the current would approach 0 and the voltage drop would be all across the capacitor?

It sounds like you're talking about a series RC circuit, from the context. Let's say that we start with the switch open and placed in such a way that it interrupts the connection between the voltage source (battery or whatever) and the resistor and capacitor. Let's says also that the voltage source has a voltage of V0. If, at time t = 0, we close the switch, then the voltage across the capacitor vs. time is given by the function

[tex]v_C (t) = V_0 (1-e^{-t/RC})[/tex]

If you plot this (e.g. look at 1-e-x on your graphing calculator or plotting computer program), you'll see that this starts at 0 and increases asymptotically to V0.

Since the voltage across the resistor and the voltage across the capacitor have to add up to the source voltage, the voltage across the resistor is given by:

[tex]v_R (t) = V_0 - v_c (t)[/tex]

[tex]= V_0e^{-t/RC}[/tex]

You can see that this starts at V0 and decays asymptotically to 0. So, your statements (1 and 2) are correct!

The way to derive the function for the capacitor voltage above is to start with KVL (sum of voltages around a closed loop must equal zero):

[tex]V_0 - v_C(t) - v_R(t) = 0[/tex]

[tex]v_C(t) + v_R(t) = V_0[/tex]

Now, since V = q/C for a capacitor, where q(t) is the charge on the capacitor (which is a function of time in this case) and also since Ohm's law says the voltage drop across a resistor is iR where i(t) is the current in the circuit (a function of time here), the equation above becomes:

[tex]\frac{q(t)}{C} + i(t)R = V_0[/tex]

Noting that i = dq/dt by definition, this equation becomes:

[tex]\frac{dq}{dt} + \frac{q(t)}{RC} = \frac{V_0}{R}[/tex]

If you solve this differential equation for q(t) and then note that q = CvC, you'll get the result that vC(t) is equal to what I wrote in the very first equation above.
 
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pyroknife said:
The above is charging a capacitor.
Below is discharging
If we have the same circuit, except that the switch was initially closed for a long time then opened.
1. The voltage the instant the switch is opened would be all across the capacitor still right?
2. After a longtime when, the charge on the capacitor has diminished, how would you calculate the current/voltage across the resistor?

Well, if you open the switch, the charge on the capacitor has nowhere to go (because it's an open circuit) and so nothing happens. However, if you then introduce a wire to bypass the voltage supply by connecting the resistor directly to the capacitor (so that the circuit now consists of only R and C in series), then the capacitor will discharge through the resistor. Starting with KVL:

[tex]v_R(t) = -v_C(t)[/tex]

Or:

[tex]i(t)R =- \frac{q(t)}{C}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dq}{dt} = -\frac{q}{RC}[/tex]

Solving this differential equation (which is easier than the one in my previous post, because it is separable), and assuming that the capacitor starts out with charge CV0 at t = 0, you get:

[tex]q(t) = CV_0e^{-t/RC}[/tex]

The current as a function of time i(t) will just be the derivative of this.
 
pyroknife said:
Let's say you have a circuit with a resistor, capacitor and voltage source and a switch.
I got a few questions.
1. The instant the switch is closed, the voltage drop would all be across the resistor right?
Yes, providing there was no initial charge on the capacitor.

2. After a long time the switch is closed, the current would approach 0 and the voltage drop would be all across the capacitor?
Yes.

The above is charging a capacitor.
Below is discharging
If we have the same circuit, except that the switch was initially closed for a long time then opened.
1. The voltage the instant the switch is opened would be all across the capacitor still right?

You arrange this as a series circuit without the battery, I suppose you mean? If so, the capacitor has the full voltage across it, and the switch places all of this across the resistor. So immediately after the switch is closed, called t=0+ the resistor has a voltage across it equal to the capacitor's fully-charged voltage.

2. After a longtime when, the charge on the capacitor has diminished, how would you calculate the current/voltage across the resistor?
You don't have to wait a long time, you can calculate it at ANY time because it follows the exponential decay equation with a time constant = R.C seconds.
 
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