How Does Angular Momentum Vary with Orbital Distance in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between angular momentum and orbital distance in the context of circular and elliptical orbits. Participants are analyzing how angular momentum varies with different orbital configurations based on provided equations and principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to derive relationships between angular momentum values for different orbital paths, specifically comparing circular and elliptical orbits. Questions about the validity of assumptions regarding velocity and radius in relation to angular momentum are raised.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between angular momentum values for different scenarios. Some participants are seeking more rigorous principles to support their reasoning, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the semi-major axis and its implications on the calculations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for their analysis. The discussion reflects a mix of elimination of choices based on reasoning and the need for further clarification on certain principles.

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Homework Statement



https://aapt.org/physicsteam/2010/upload/2009_F-ma.pdf

Homework Equations


L = mrv
L = Iω


The Attempt at a Solution


For a circular orbit:
Fc = Fg
mv^2/r = Gmm/r^2
v = √(GM/R)
Thus:
l = mR√(GM/R)
l = m√(GMR)

This means that LA > LC, eliminating choices B, C, and E.

Now, to compare B, C
I'm interested in finding a more rigorous approach, but here goes.
The point of intersection between the Circlular path that C orbits on and the elliptical path that B orbits.
We know that the velocity at the perihelion is greater than the aphelion, that is, the velocity of the intersection is the maximum velocity that B ever achieves. I then made an intelligent guess and postulated that thus B > C,
leading to LA > LB > LC

Could you suggest more rigor/principles to do this question?
 
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If choices B,C & E are eliminated - what is left are:

(A) LA > LB > LC
(E) The relationship between the magnitudes is different at various instants in time.

Look at E.
Consider: conservation of angular momentum.
 
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l = m√(GMR)
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Could you suggest more rigor/principles to do this question?
You've already done that: for B, r is never less than C's and never more than A's.
 
Ya I see that but isn't it root(GM/a), where a is the semi major axis for object B. Doesn't that mean that the radius in the numerator won't cancel with the semi major axis on the denominator?
That's where I was worried.
 

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