How does Calabi-Yau space blend into ordinary 3-space?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of Calabi-Yau spaces in relation to ordinary three-dimensional space, particularly within the context of string theory. Participants explore whether these higher-dimensional manifolds blend into our observable 3-space or if they remain distinct entities, touching on concepts of dimensionality and representation.

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  • One participant questions how Calabi-Yau spaces blend into 3-space, suggesting that there must be some interaction since particles like electrons propagate through 3-space.
  • Another participant asserts that there is no blending, comparing it to the orthogonality of height to two-dimensional space.
  • Some participants seek clarification on whether all nine dimensions are orthogonal, with one noting that this is a loose interpretation of dimensionality.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the representation of Calabi-Yau manifolds, arguing that any point on such a manifold can be located with three coordinates, questioning the notion of higher dimensions.
  • Another participant elaborates that illustrations of higher-dimensional spaces are merely projections and cannot fully convey the true nature of these dimensions.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between Calabi-Yau spaces and 3-space, with some asserting orthogonality and others challenging the representation of higher dimensions. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the blending or interaction of these spaces.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of dimensions and the assumptions about how higher-dimensional spaces can be represented in lower dimensions. The mathematical intricacies of curved spaces and the implications of dimensionality are not fully explored.

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How does Calabi-Yau space "blend" into ordinary 3-space?

Hi there,

I'm wondering about the following:

Assume that string theory is more or less correct and that particular 6-dimensional Calabi-Yau manifold(s) are in fact extra dimensions of spacetime.

Do physicists / mathematicians already understand how this compact space "blends" into the long/extended 3-space that we observe?

I'm not really talking about compactification (or am I?) but more wondering if we are treating the 6-space and 3-space separately or if they influence one another mathematically (a blending of sorts).

My view is that there must be some sort of "blending" since an electron (a presumed string) indeed propagates through 3-space.

Does anyone have any relevant thoughts / sources they wish to share?

Thanks
 
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euquila said:
Hi there,

Do physicists / mathematicians already understand how this compact space "blends" into the long/extended 3-space that we observe?

There is no such thing as blending. Analogously the dimension "height" (with coordinate "z", say) does not "blend" into the two orthogonal dimensions with coordinates "x" and "y".
 


So all 9 dimensions are orthogonal to each other?

Thank you for your reply.
 


euquila said:
So all 9 dimensions are orthogonal to each other?

Loosely speaking, yes, that's what "dimension" means.

I spare you a more precise definition that is needed when spaces are curved.
 


euquila said:
So all 9 dimensions are orthogonal to each other?
This is a helpful illustration
 


bapowell said:
This is a helpful illustration

I don't like the way that specific model, there!:confused:
or the calabi-yau manifold itself, more precisely, as representing higher dimensional manifold!
:confused:
Because, you see, any point on that manifold can be located by three coordinates, sufficiently.

And is not number of coordinates needed to accurately locate an point/event, or whatever you call it in more than 4 higher dimensional manifold, more precise than number of perpendicular axes?

So, is not it 3-dimensional. and how come it be more than three dimensional! Merely because of the distortions and so on?

I don't know much and please clarify me if i am wrong!:blushing:
 


dpa said:
I don't like the way that specific model, there!:confused:
or the calabi-yau manifold itself, more precisely, as representing higher dimensional manifold!
:confused:
Because, you see, any point on that manifold can be located by three coordinates, sufficiently.

And is not number of coordinates needed to accurately locate an point/event, or whatever you call it in more than 4 higher dimensional manifold, more precise than number of perpendicular axes?

So, is not it 3-dimensional. and how come it be more than three dimensional! Merely because of the distortions and so on?

I don't know much and please clarify me if i am wrong!:blushing:

Because the illustration is not how Calabi-Yau manifolds really look like... it is merely an illustration of 3D projection of a higher dimensional object.
 


dpa said:
I don't like the way that specific model, there!:confused:
or the calabi-yau manifold itself, more precisely, as representing higher dimensional manifold!
:confused:
Because, you see, any point on that manifold can be located by three coordinates, sufficiently.

And is not number of coordinates needed to accurately locate an point/event, or whatever you call it in more than 4 higher dimensional manifold, more precise than number of perpendicular axes?

So, is not it 3-dimensional. and how come it be more than three dimensional! Merely because of the distortions and so on?

I don't know much and please clarify me if i am wrong!:blushing:
Yeah, it's because we can't draw pictures in 10 dimensions. You'll have to make do, and get used to looking at, lower dimensional analogs of higher dimensional spaces. For example, in this illustration, the 2D grid is meant to represent our 3D space. The Calabi-Yau is given a 3D perspective in this illustration, making it the analog of a 4D space. Of course, this fails miserably to convey the full 10 dimensions of the true space; this illustration is merely meant to show you how the compactified extra dimensions are situated relative to the three large dimensions that we know and love.
 

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