How Does Changing Coordinates Affect the Momentum Space Wavefunction?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of changing coordinates on the momentum space wavefunction derived from a given wavefunction. Participants are exploring the implications of a coordinate transformation on the Fourier transform of the wavefunction.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining whether a change of coordinates affects the momentum space wavefunction beyond a phase change. They discuss the relationship between the wavefunction and its Fourier transform, questioning how energy relates to momentum and the implications of shifting the origin in the coordinate system.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships involved, particularly regarding the phase factor introduced by the coordinate shift. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the original question, and one participant indicates that rephrasing helped them progress in their understanding.

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There is a focus on the mathematical properties of Fourier transforms and the specific conditions under which the wavefunctions are being analyzed. Participants are also considering the assumptions related to the functions involved in the transformation.

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For a wavefunction given by

\psi(x,t) = \sum a_n u_n(x) exp(-i E_n T/\hbar) how would you show that a change of coordinates x > x + d does not affect the momentum space wavefunction phi(x) by more than a phase change?
You get phi(x) by Fourier transforming psi.
So, I do not see why it would affect psi at all because you are moving the origin d to the left but you are integrating over all pace in the Fourier transform.
 
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ehrenfest said:
For a wavefunction given by

\psi(x,t) = \sum a_n u_n(x) exp(-i E_n T/\hbar) how would you show that a change of coordinates x > x + d does not affect the momentum space wavefunction phi(x) by more than a phase change?
You get phi(x) by Fourier transforming psi.
So, I do not see why it would affect psi at all because you are moving the origin d to the left but you are integrating over all pace in the Fourier transform.

You mean we get phi(p) when doing Fourier transformation with respect to p. How is E related to p? Have you tried doing the mathematics or are you just trying to solve it by looking at it? =P
 
ehrenfest said:
So, I do not see why it would affect psi at all because you are moving the origin d to the left but you are integrating over all pace in the Fourier transform.

What you are saying exactly is not clear. Do you want to show that for two functions (of 'x') f and g and their Fourier transforms (functions of 'p') F and G, if f and g obey

<br /> g(x)=f(x+a)<br />

then F and G obey

<br /> G(p)=e^{ipa}F(p)\;.<br />

Is this what you want to show?
 
olgranpappy said:
What you are saying exactly is not clear. Do you want to show that for two functions (of 'x') f and g and their Fourier transforms (functions of 'p') F and G, if f and g obey

<br /> g(x)=f(x+a)<br />

then F and G obey

<br /> G(p)=e^{ipa}F(p)\;.<br />

Is this what you want to show?
Exactly! That F and G only differ by a phase factor (so their moduli squared are the same).
<br /> \phi(p,t) <br /> = \int\psi(x+d,t) e^{-i p x/ \hbar}dx <br /> = \int\psi(u,t) e^{-i p (u - d)/ \hbar}du<br /> =e^{i p d/ \hbar} \int\psi(u,t) e^{-i p u/ \hbar}du

I think that rephrasing of the question helped me finish it!
 
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ehrenfest said:
I think that rephrasing of the question helped me finish it!

I'm glad. Good luck w/ the rest of your work.
 

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