How Does Current Density Vary Across a Cylindrical Region?

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The problem involves analyzing current density variations across a cylindrical region, specifically how it changes based on different equations for current density. The original poster presents two scenarios: one where current density decreases from a maximum at the axis to zero at the surface, and another where it is maximum at the surface and decreases to zero at the axis. The task is to calculate the current in both cases in terms of the maximum current density and the cross-sectional area.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the current density over the area due to its non-constant nature. There are questions about the correct setup for the integral and the direction of the current density vector. Some participants seek clarification on the integration process in polar coordinates.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing corrections and seeking further explanations about integrating current density. There is a focus on understanding the implications of varying current density and the appropriate mathematical treatment required to calculate the current.

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There are indications that some participants may lack familiarity with polar coordinates and integration techniques, which could affect their understanding of the problem. The original poster's attempts at solving the problem are noted, but there is no consensus on the approach yet.

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Homework Statement



(a)The current density across a cylindrical region of radius R varies according to the equation: J=J0(1-r/R), where r is the distance from the axis of the cylinder. The current density is the maximum J0 at the axis r=0 and decreases linearly to zero at the surface r=R. Calculate the current in terms J0 and the region's cross sectional area A=pi*R^2.

(b) Now suppose that a current density was a maximum Jo at the surface and decreased linearly to zero at the axis, so that: J=J0 r/R. Calculate the current. Why is the result different for these two cases?

Homework Equations



I=JA

The Attempt at a Solution



I uploaded a picture of the first part but I am not sure if it's correct. I also don't know how to get the area from this problem. I am thinking of plugging the value of R from I to get the area but I am pretty sure it is not right.
 

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You're integrating w.r.t. J_0?! That's strangely wrong!
As you wrote, I=JA but that's only when J is a constant through out A. Otherwise you have I=\int dI=\int J dA. Here J is not constant and so you should integrate w.r.t. area. But what that area is, depends on the direction of J(remember current density is a vector!). You didn't give what's the direction of J but from the area formula you given, I take it that \vec J=J \hat z. So the integral you should do is I=\int _0^R \int_0^{2\pi} J r d\varphi dr.
 
Shyan said:
You're integrating w.r.t. J_0?! That's strangely wrong!
As you wrote, I=JA but that's only when J is a constant through out A. Otherwise you have I=\int dI=\int J dA. Here J is not constant and so you should integrate w.r.t. area. But what that area is, depends on the direction of J(remember current density is a vector!). You didn't give what's the direction of J but from the area formula you given, I take it that \vec J=J \hat z. So the integral you should do is I=\int _0^R \int_0^{2\pi} J r d\varphi dr.

Thanks for correcting J_0. Can you further explain this ∫2π0Jrdφ ??
 
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Aviegaille said:
Can you further explain this part \int_0^{2\pi} J r d\varphi
Since ##J## is changing throughout the area you are considering, you have to integrate it with respect to area to get the current. ##
I=\int _0^R \int_0^{2\pi} J r d\varphi dr## is just ##
\int J dA
## in polar coordinates (hopefully you've seen them before).
 
ZetaOfThree said:
Since ##J## is changing throughout the area you are considering, you have to integrate it with respect to area to get the current. ##
I=\int _0^R \int_0^{2\pi} J r d\varphi dr## is just ##
\int J dA
## in polar coordinates (hopefully you've seen them before).

I haven't but that makes sense. Thanks.
 

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