How Does Density Affect the Lifting Power of Helium Balloons?

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The discussion revolves around the lifting power of helium balloons as depicted in a film scene involving Mr. Bean. Participants are exploring the relationship between the densities of helium and air, the weight of a stroller with a baby, and the number of balloons required for lift.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the lifting power of helium balloons based on the densities of helium and air, questioning the units used for density and weight. There is discussion about estimating the volume of the balloons and the number of balloons needed for lift.

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Some participants have provided guidance on unit consistency and the interpretation of weight versus mass. There is ongoing clarification regarding the density of helium and its implications, with no explicit consensus reached on the calculations or assumptions.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings about the densities of gases and the appropriate units for weight and mass in the context of the problem. There is mention of using external sources for density values, which may vary.

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Mr Bean – Mind the baby (19:45)

In the film we see how Mr. Bean air puts a stroller with a baby in with the help of a number of helium-filled balloons. Appreciate the reasonableness of this!

1. What is the density of helium and air?

2. What do you think a stroller with a baby should weigh?

3. How big is the lifting power of the balloon in the film?

4. How many balloons are using Mr. Bean?

5. How many balloons should be required?

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]

1. The density of air at sea level and at 15 °C is 1.225 kg/m3. The density of helium is 178.6 g/cm3.

2. The weigh of the baby and the stroller is probably around 10*g

3. The lifting power of the balloon is: F=rho * g * V

Now I need the volume of the balloon, I can either estimate the volume or estimate the mass and then multiply it by the density to get the volume. What should I do?

4. I couldn't really count but he probably used around 20 balloons.

5. I divide the lifting foorce with the number of balloons that he used to see how much one balloon can lift. Then I calculate the difference between the lifting force and the stroller + baby's weight. so on...

Am I right?
 
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Drizzy said:

The Attempt at a Solution



1. The density of air at sea level and at 15 °C is 1.225 kg/m3. The density of helium is 178.6 g/cm3.
What source did you use to obtain the density of helium?

Don't you think it would be better if the densities of air and helium were expressed in the same units?

2. The weigh of the baby and the stroller is probably around 10*g
What are the units of "10*g"? What does that even mean?
 
SteamKing said:
What source did you use to obtain the density of helium?

Don't you think it would be better if the densities of air and helium were expressed in the same units?What are the units of "10*g"? What does that even mean?

I used wikipedia :P

Probably... 1.225 kg/m3. The density of helium is 178600 kg/m3.

g=9.82 and the mass of the storller+the baby is 10kg
 
Drizzy said:
I used wikipedia :P

Probably... 1.225 kg/m3. The density of helium is 178600 kg/m3.

Do you really think that helium gas has a density of 178.6 tons per cubic meter? Wouldn't that make helium the most dense material on earth?

g=9.82 and the mass of the storller+the baby is 10kg

Either quote the mass of the stroller, 10 kg, or its weight, 98.2 N, but avoid expressions like "10*g".
 
oops it is 0.1786 kg/m3
 

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