How Does Energy Relate to Work in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between energy and work in physics, exploring concepts such as the definitions of energy and work, the implications of conservative force fields, and the conditions under which work done relates to changes in energy. Participants engage in clarifying these concepts and their interconnections.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why the change in energy is equal to work, suggesting that energy and work might be equivalent.
  • One participant notes that positive work creates positive potential energy, while negative work results in kinetic energy, indicating a separation between the two terms.
  • A participant explains that total internal energy is a state function, whereas mechanical work is a process function, emphasizing the distinction between energy and work in terms of state and process.
  • Another participant reiterates that energy is the capacity to do work, which decreases as work is performed, leading to the conclusion that work is equal to the change in energy.
  • There is a discussion about whether the work done by a conservative force field on an object is equal to the change in energy of that object, with some suggesting that this is indeed the case due to the nature of conservative fields.
  • One participant provides an example involving gravitational potential energy, illustrating how potential energy changes as an object moves in a conservative field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the relationship between energy and work, with some agreeing on the definitions and implications of conservative fields, while others raise questions and seek clarification, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and implications of energy and work, particularly in the context of conservative force fields. There are also unresolved questions about the equivalence of work and energy in specific scenarios.

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Hello all.
This is not a "What is Energy" Thread but rather a question about its relation with work.
I understand that energy has been defined as the ability to do work. So why is change in energy is equal to work? Cant energy be equal to work.

Also when the force field is doing work on a object, will the work done on the object by field be equal to the work that the object can do later?
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Positive work creates positive potential energy as in pushing a block up an incline.

A block sliding down an incline has positive kinetic energy (negative work).

I think this is why we separate the two terms.
 
The total internal energy is a state function whereas mechanical work is a process function. Put more loosely, I can easily say that a particle has "this amount of energy for the given state" but it makes no sense to say that a particle has "this amount of work for the given state".
 
san203 said:
I understand that energy has been defined as the ability to do work. So why is change in energy is equal to work? Cant energy be equal to work.
So remember that energy is the capacity to do work, and that capacity is limited. As you do work you lose the capacity to do more work. So as you do work your energy decreases, and therefore the work is equal to the change in the energy.

san203 said:
Also when the force field is doing work on a object, will the work done on the object by field be equal to the work that the object can do later?
Yes, assuming that the force field is conservative. The work done on the object by the field will increase the KE of the object, which can then be used to do work later.
 
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DaleSpam said:
So remember that energy is the capacity to do work, and that capacity is limited. As you do work you lose the capacity to do more work. So as you do work your energy decreases, and therefore the work is equal to the change in the energy.

I see. But i was talking about the work done by the field. why is Work done by field = change in energy of object? same reason i guess? Silly question i know, but it happens when you think about something for too too long:-p
 
san203 said:
I see. But i was talking about the work done by the field. why is Work done by field = change in energy of object?
A conservative field has an associated potential. So an object being acted on by such a field has potential energy. As the field does work on the object the potential energy of the object is decreased, meaning that the object has a reduced capacity to do work.

For example, a rock under the influence of gravity has potential energy (mgh). At the top of a hill its potential energy is high and it has the capacity to do a lot of work by falling down. At the bottom of the hill the potential energy is low and it has little capacity to do work by falling down. The change in the rock's potential energy is equal to the work done by gravity on the rock.
 

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