How Does Gauss' Law Ensure E-field Perpendicularity on Irregular Conductors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior of the electric field (E-field) in relation to irregularly shaped conductors, particularly addressing how Gauss' Law ensures that the E-field remains perpendicular to the surfaces of these conductors. The scope includes theoretical considerations in electrostatics and the implications of charge movement in response to electric fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that by focusing on small regions of an irregular surface, one can treat those regions as flat, thus allowing the application of the infinite plane sheet case to argue that the E-field is perpendicular to the surface.
  • Another viewpoint posits that if the E-field were not perpendicular at any point, freely moving charges would experience a force causing them to move in a direction that cancels the parallel component of the electric field, leading to a situation where the E-field must be perpendicular.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that in electrostatics, the electric field inside a conductor must vanish, implying that the surface is an equipotential surface, which necessitates that the E-field is perpendicular to the surface at all points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how the E-field behaves at irregular surfaces, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of irregularities on the E-field's perpendicularity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the behavior of electric fields in electrostatics and the conditions under which the E-field is considered to be perpendicular to surfaces. There are also dependencies on the definitions of equipotential surfaces and the behavior of freely moving charges.

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For an infinite plane sheet of charge it is obvious that the E-field points directly perpendicular to the sheet. but for conductors of irregular shape. say, a wire, or even a sheet with imperfections in it, what guarantees that the E-field will point directly perpendicular from the emanating surfaces?
 
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For an infinite plane sheet of charge it is obvious that the E-field points directly perpendicular to the sheet. but for conductors of irregular shape. say, a wire, or even a sheet with imperfections in it, what guarantees that the E-field will point directly perpendicular from the emanating surfaces?

Focus down on a small enough region of the surface and it will be flat (if it's not, just go for an even smaller region). Then evaluate the direction of the force at the center of that region, at a distance that is small compared with the size of that region... and you're right back to something that looks like the infinite plane case.

If the object is irregularly shaped, the field may change direction not far from the surface, but as long as the distance from where you're calculating the force to the surface is very small compared with the size of the irregularities, the field will be perpendicular to the surface.
 
Suppose at some point on the surface, the electric field is not perpendicular to the surface. That means that there is a component of the electric field that is parallel to the surface. That means that a freely moving charge at that point would have a force on it causing it to move in a direction that partially cancels the electric field. So if there are plenty of freely moving charges, they would tend to move to cancel the electric field in the direction perpendicular to the surface.
 
First of all, this is about electrostatics. Then the electric field is a potential field, i.e., it exists a scalar field such that
\vec{E}=-\vec{\nabla} \Phi.
Now, inside a conductor the electric field must vanish, because otherwise one had a current due to Ohm's Law, and electrostatics is about the electric field for charges at rest and no currents.

This implies that for electrostatics the \Phi is constant inside a conductor and particularly along its surface. Thus the surface of a conductor is a surface of constant potential. Any curve \vec{x}(\lambda) (where \lambda is an arbitrary parameter for the curve) within the surface is thus an equipotential line, i.e., we have
\Phi[\vec{x}(\lambda)]=\text{const}.
Taking the derivative with respect to \lambda implies
\frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{x}}{\mathrm{d} \lambda} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \Phi=-\frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{x}}{\mathrm{d} \lambda} \cdot \vec{E}=0.
This means the electric field at the surface of the conductor is necessarily perpendicular to any tangent vector along the surface, QED.
 

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