How Does Gravity Affect the Frequency Needed to Keep Water in a Jar on Mars?

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The problem involves analyzing the effects of gravity on the frequency required to keep water in an open jar moving in a vertical circle on Mars, where the gravitational acceleration is significantly lower than on Earth. The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force, questioning how these forces interact at the top of the circular motion. The original poster expresses confusion about the equality of forces and seeks clarification on the logic behind it.

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Some participants provide clarifications regarding the forces involved, explaining that the centripetal force required for circular motion is provided by the gravitational force at the top of the circle. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the water remains in the jar versus when it falls out.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the conditions on Mars, specifically the lower gravitational acceleration, and how this affects the frequency of circular motion needed to keep the water from falling out of the jar.

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Homework Statement


An open jar of water moves in a vertical circle of radius ##0.50m## with a frequency that is small enough to put the water on the verge of falling out of the jar at the top of to the circle.If the same demonstration were repeated on Mars,where the ##a_g## is only ##3.7 \frac {m} {s^2}## ,what is the change in the circling frequency to again put the water on the verge of falling out at the top point.

Homework Equations


##a_r=\frac {v^2} {r}##
##v=2πfr##

The Attempt at a Solution


##a_r=\frac {v^2} {r}##
##v=2πfr##
##m\frac {v^2} {r}=mg##
from these
I found ##0.27 Hz##, which its correct.But there's something that I confused.
##m\frac {v^2} {r}=mg## how can these can be equal..weight must point downward and the other force is pointing inward...? I didnt quite understand the logic..I tried to understand but I couldnt

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The equation does not equate two different forces. The left hand side tells you the magnitude of the centripetal force required if the water is to move in a circle of radius r. The right hand side represents what actually provides that force at the top of the circle. If the right hand side of the equation was larger than the left the water would move in a circle that had a radius less than r (eg it would fall out).
 
Ohh,I see now Thanks..
 
So in order for the water to fall out...

mg > mv^2/r

In order for it to just stay in the jar..

mg = mv^2/r
 
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