How Does Immersion in a Liquid Affect Diffraction Fringe Spacing?

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The problem involves a monochromatic light source passing through a diffraction grating and the effects of immersion in a liquid on the diffraction fringe spacing. The setup includes a grating with 600 lines per mm and a screen located 5m away, with the immersion liquid having a refractive index of 1.3. The distance between adjacent bright fringes is stated to be reduced by 0.45m.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss deriving formulas related to fringe spacing and the impact of the refractive index on wavelength. There are attempts to clarify the interpretation of the distance reduction and the role of the order of the fringe in the equations. Questions arise regarding how to express the wavelength in different media and the implications of the refractive index on the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the correct interpretation of the distance change and the formulas used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of equations for both the liquid and air scenarios, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the derived wavelength.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of the distance reduction and the definitions of variables in the equations. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct approach to solving the problem, with participants expressing concerns about the complexity of the solution.

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A monochromatic light source is incident normally on a diffraction grating with 600 lines per mm. The beam passes through the grating and the fringes are observed on a screen 5m away. The apparatus is then immersed in a liquid whose refractive index is 1.3. In consequence the distance between the adjacent bright fringes is reduced by 0.45m. Find the wavelength of this light source in air.

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I derived the formula: x = n[tex]\lambda[/tex]D / d , where D = 5m and d = 1 / (600 x 10^3) = 1.67 x 10^-6m

then I said: x - 0.45 = (1.3[tex]\lambda[/tex] x D x n)/ d

but there are two unknowns, and this is where I'm stuck. I have the feeling that simultaneous equations will be needed.

Thanks for any help!
 
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How can I use the refractive index to solve the question?
 
jasper10 said:
I derived the formula: x = n[tex]\lambda[/tex]D / d , where D = 5m and d = 1 / (600 x 10^3) = 1.67 x 10^-6m

then I said: x - 0.45 = (1.3[tex]\lambda[/tex] x D x n)/ d
Two problems:
(1) The distance between adjacent fringes is not reduced by 0.45 m, it is reduced to 0.45 m. In other words: x = 0.45 m.
(2) In that formula, n is the order of the fringe, not the index of refraction.

jasper10 said:
How can I use the refractive index to solve the question?
How does the presence of the liquid affect the wavelength of the light?
 
Doc Al said:
Two problems:
(1) The distance between adjacent fringes is not reduced by 0.45 m, it is reduced to 0.45 m. In other words: x = 0.45 m.

The question clearly says BY 0.45 m.

Doc Al said:
(2) In that formula, n is the order of the fringe, not the index of refraction.
Yes I'm aware of this: I used n to be 1 (first order maximum). Hence I am considering the angle between n=1 and n=0.

Doc Al said:
How does the presence of the liquid affect the wavelength of the light?

The liquid decreases the wavelength. does this mean: 1.3[tex]\lambda[/tex] = 1.0[tex]\lambda[/tex]' (assuming that the refractive index for air is n=1)

Can you please help me find a method of how to tackle this question? I still don't see it unfortunately! Thanks!
 
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jasper10 said:
The question clearly says BY 0.45 m.
Hmmm... Did you edit your post? I don't recall reading that. In any case, OK.

Yes I'm aware of this: I used n to be 1 (first order maximum). Hence I am considering the angle between n=1 and n=0.
OK.
The liquid decreases the wavelength. does this mean: 1.3[tex]\lambda[/tex] = 1.0[tex]\lambda[/tex]' (assuming that the refractive index for air is n=1)
Yes. λair = 1.3λliquid

Can you please help me find a method of how to tackle this question? I still don't see it unfortunately!
Your initial idea of simultaneous equations was correct. Set up two diffraction equations, one for liquid and one for air.
 
ok but which equation should I use?

[tex]\lambda[/tex]

x - 0.45 = (1.3[tex]\lambda[/tex] x D x n)/ d

and x = ([tex]\lambda[/tex] x D x n) / d ?

Thanks for your help!
 
jasper10 said:
x - 0.45 = (1.3[tex]\lambda[/tex] x D x n)/ d
Why 1.3λ? You want xliquid = λliquid (D/d). (Expressed in terms of x and λ, of course.)
and x = ([tex]\lambda[/tex] x D x n) / d ?
OK. (That's the equation for air.)
 
Doc Al said:
Why 1.3λ? You want xliquid = λliquid (D/d). (Expressed in terms of x and λ, of course.)

But I assume you want to express [tex]\lambda[/tex]liquid in terms of λair.

So i came to the conclusion:

In water: x - 0.45 = (Dλair/1.3) / d
In air: x = (λairD) / d
(I have not included n in these to equations, as I have taken n = 1)

Solving this gives: λair= 6.5 x 10^-7 m
Is this correct? I have a feeling that it isn't (because the question is worth a lot of marks- which hints that it takes more than a few steps!) :S Thanks!
 
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jasper10 said:
Solving this gives: λair= 6.5 x 10^-7 m
Is this correct?
Looks good to me.
 

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