How does one integrate for positive beta and real b ?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression \(\int_0^\infty e^{-\beta x^2}\cos{(bx)} dx\) for positive beta and real b. Participants explore various methods for solving this integral, including differentiation under the integral sign and complex analysis techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using differentiation under the integral sign as a potential method for solving the integral.
  • Another participant proposes rewriting the cosine function in terms of complex exponentials, leading to a different integral that can be solved more easily.
  • A participant expresses concern about making a substitution that would introduce an imaginary lower boundary in the integral.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of using complex numbers and limits in the context of the integral, with some participants questioning the assumptions involved.
  • One participant outlines a differential equation derived from differentiating the integral with respect to b, indicating that this method can lead to a solution.
  • Another participant acknowledges the method of solving integrals via differential equations but notes that it may not be universally applicable.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for solving the integral. Multiple approaches are discussed, and there is acknowledgment of the limitations and assumptions involved in each method.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential complications of using complex numbers and the implications of boundary conditions in their methods. There are also mentions of the need to determine constants when solving differential equations related to the integral.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in advanced integration techniques, particularly in the context of mathematical physics or applied mathematics.

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How does one integrate
<br /> \int_0^\infty e^{-\beta x^2}\cos{(bx)} dx<br />

for positive beta and real b ?

I was thinking maybe differentiation under the integral sign would do the trick, but I can't get anywhere.
 
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What are you integrating with respect to?
 


There are several ways to solve this. Perhaps the most simple is to change the cosine function to the following:

cos(bx)+jsin(bx)=e^{jbx}

With j the imaginary unit. This gives the following integral, which you need to find the real part of, after integrating:

\int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-\beta x^2 +j bx}dx

This is fairly easy solved by making the argument of the exponential an exact square and splitting some part of afterwards. Then you can use the following to find the result:

\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-t^2}dt=\frac{\sqrt{\pi}}{2}

As stated there are other ways, complex contour integration, and certainly other tricks. The result of this integral is real, so the taking of the real part only is obsolete, but you don't know this beforehand.
 


Using your method, I got to this point

<br /> e^{-\frac{b^2}{4\beta^2}}\int_0^\infty e^{-\beta\left(x-\frac{jb}{2\beta}\right)^2}dx<br />

Now what do I do? I don't want to make the substitution

<br /> t=x-\frac{jb}{2\beta}<br />

because then I will have an imaginary lower boundary on the integral.
 


daudaudaudau said:
Using your method, I got to this point

<br /> e^{-\frac{b^2}{4\beta^2}}\int_0^\infty e^{-\beta\left(x-\frac{jb}{2\beta}\right)^2}dx<br />

Now what do I do? I don't want to make the substitution

<br /> t=x-\frac{jb}{2\beta}<br />

because then I will have an imaginary lower boundary on the integral.

Very good so far, but I think you have forgotten a \beta for the split of part. The square should be gone. OK, you can rewrite your result as:

I=\frac{e^{-\frac{b^2}{4\beta}}}{\sqrt{\beta}} \int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-\left(\sqrt{\beta}x-j\frac{b}{2\sqrt{\beta}} \right)^2}d\left(\sqrt{\beta}x- j\frac{b}{2\sqrt{\beta}} \right)

Can you see now the formula I gave earlier? This is actually not a decent method because we assume infinity and complex numbers can be used this way, however the result is here correct and can be applied.
 


Differentiation under the integral sign is definitely a method that works.

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \frac{d I}{db} &amp;= \frac{d}{db} \int_0^\infty e^{-\beta x^2} \cos (bx) dx <br /> \\<br /> &amp; =\int_0^\infty -x \sin (bx) e^{-\beta x^2} dx<br /> \\<br /> &amp;= \sin (bx) \frac{1}{2 \beta} e^{- \beta x^2} |_0^\infty - \int_0^\infty b \cos (bx) \frac{1}{2 \beta} e^{- \beta x^2} dx<br /> \\<br /> &amp;= -\frac{b}{2 \beta} \int_0^\infty e^{-\beta x^2} \cos (bx) dx<br /> \\<br /> &amp;= -\frac{b}{2 \beta} I<br /> \end{align*}<br />

So we get the following differential equation: \frac{d I}{db}=-\frac{b}{2 \beta} I.

This differential equation is really easy to solve, just make sure you determine the constant.
 
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That is a very nice method, Cyosis. Did you figure that out on our own? Is there any generality to that method of solving integrals by doing differential equations?
 


Nah I didn't figure it out myself, it's a standard method I was taught to evaluate these type of integrals. It's definitely not a method that can be applied to every integral and the differential equation you end up with can be harder to solve than the integral itself. That said it's a nice method to add to your bag of integration tricks.
 

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