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How does one pronounce de Broglie ?

  1. May 19, 2008 #1

    rock.freak667

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    Well I asked three people and they all gave me three different answers...

    One say to pronounce it the Broglie as how you would say "broil"

    other one said to say Broglie as "bro-glee"

    last one said...Broglie as "bro-lee"
     
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  3. May 19, 2008 #2
    You got three wrong answers :P

    It would be pronounced "de Broy"
     
  4. May 19, 2008 #3

    dst

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    Bloody French.
     
  5. May 19, 2008 #4

    Chi Meson

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    It's pronounced:
    "Tay-stee-corn-dogs"
     
  6. May 19, 2008 #5
    This is correct.
     
  7. May 19, 2008 #6
    My Pchem prof always said de BROY EEEEEE
     
  8. May 19, 2008 #7
    Isnt it, "Brough-yay"
     
  9. May 19, 2008 #8

    Moonbear

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    I think it's more like "de broccoli." :biggrin:
     
  10. May 19, 2008 #9

    turbo

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    You don't have to tack on so many EEEEs, but that's a reasonable pronunciation, with a de-emphasis on the last syllable and a slight upward pitch in that syllable.
     
  11. May 19, 2008 #10
    Well i'll be. This whole time i've been pronouncing it "de-bro-gul" thinking the 'i' was silent. I never had a nack for French anyway... except for those French words that would come out whenever I stub my toe or drop something.
     
  12. May 19, 2008 #11

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    Merdre!
     
  13. May 19, 2008 #12
    Ha, I was just trying to emphasize the long E sound, not how long you say the long E sound.
     
  14. May 19, 2008 #13

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    People can pronounce their name any way they want to.

    I'm French and I wouldn't pronounce it "de broy".

    According to wikipedia, which I guess is where people are getting the pronunciation from
    So depending on if he used an Italian, French or combination of pronunciations, they would drastically change the way it's pronounced. It seems no one knows how he pronounced it, people are just guessing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duc_de_Broglie

    No one can pronounce my ex-husband's last name. His family "Americanized" the pronunciation to make it easier, but it's not correct.
     
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  15. May 19, 2008 #14

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    Part of my motivation was from a Feynman lecture, and he was probably more well-informed (by ear) than my reading of the French interpretation of the name. Feynman kept his harsh NY accent all through his life, but he had a keen ear for accents.
     
  16. May 19, 2008 #15

    Evo

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    That's probably most accurate turbo.
     
  17. May 20, 2008 #16

    BobG

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    One branch of my family had a complete split because of the pronunciation problem: half wanted their name spelled correctly and half wanted their name pronounced correctly. Same immediate family where one brother spells his name Yepsen and a sister spells her name Jepsen.

    Considering that Buffalo, New York gets its name for the French words "beautiful river", if de Broglie came to America, he would have had to change his name to de Broccoli, as Moonbear suggested. (In fact, a different branch of my family had their name go from Boussard to Buzard, which evolved in pronunciation to Buzzard).

    Has anyone else ever seen that old black and white movie, "Molly Be Damned"? The one where none of the children were allowed to pronounce the city's name correctly and had to call it "Molly Be Darned" instead?
     
  18. May 20, 2008 #17
    As Evo indicated, the usual prononciation is given wikipedia. However in the north-east of France, say Strasbourg, the pronounciation is different for instance.
    This is one of the few universally accepted pronounciation words, and should be spelled "Merde !" :tongue2: :rofl:
     
  19. May 20, 2008 #18

    Tom Mattson

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    I always prounounced it "dee-BRO-lee-ay". That's how my first physics professor prounounced it, so I guess it was imprinted on me.

    I'm going to keep doing it, just to annoy any native French speakers in the class.
     
  20. May 20, 2008 #19
    :rofl:
    I had a teacher who would pronounce any foreign name in awful, ridiculous french version. I always thought he was doing it on purpose.
     
  21. May 20, 2008 #20

    George Jones

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    As in what our (now former) prime minister once said to a bunch of striking truck drivers: "Mangez de la merde!"
     
  22. May 20, 2008 #21
    I like mine "dee-BAR-bee-kwu"
     
  23. May 20, 2008 #22
    It's even possible to pronounce 'de' wrong. It's not dee but more like 'duh'.
     
  24. May 20, 2008 #23

    turbo

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    And the "uh" part of "de" can be awfully short, depending on the dialect. My relatives of French-Canadian descent would toss in the "d" and roll right into Broglie without pause.
     
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  26. May 20, 2008 #25

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    My mother's side of the family was Dionne, and nobody had any trouble with that name, in part due to a famous litter of babies. Her aunt married a Paradis, and here in Maine that was no trouble. People here know how to pronounce French names pretty well. The problem came when they moved to Hartford and people pronounced the "S" and sometimes even made the "I" a long "I'. My great-uncle changed their family name to Parady, so the CT Yankees could at least say his name correctly. He was starting up an automotive-repair/towing business and he needed for people to be able to pronounce his name. Others in his family were deeply offended by the change.
     
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