How does pressure affect the rate of a gaseous reaction?

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The discussion centers on the effect of pressure on the rate of a gaseous reaction, specifically examining the reaction A2 + B2 -> 2C. Participants explore how compressing the gaseous reaction mixture affects the reaction rate while keeping temperature constant.

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  • Technical explanation
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the reaction rate would not change with pressure, as it is dependent on the concentrations of the reactants.
  • Another participant prompts a consideration of the relationship between pressure, volume, and concentration of an ideal gas.
  • A participant calculates that if the concentration of both reactants doubles, the rate equation would yield a factor of 8 increase in the reaction rate.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of the rate equation, emphasizing that while the rate increases, the form of the rate equation remains unchanged.
  • Participants clarify the meaning of terms used in the discussion, particularly regarding the expression "it's" in the context of the reaction rate increase.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the reaction rate increases by a factor of 8 due to pressure changes, leading to some confusion and debate over the interpretation of the rate equation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the ideal gas behavior and the implications of pressure changes on concentration and reaction rate. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the effect of pressure on the reaction rate.

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The question is:

The rate equation for the reaction A2 + B2 -> 2C (all gases) is rate = k[A2]2[B2]. If the gaseous reaction misture is compressed to half its original volume, by what factor will the reaction rate change. Assume temperature is constant.

My thoughts are that the reaction rate wouldn't change. I know the rate changes if the concentrations of any of the reactants do, which is quite simple to calculate, but I'm not totally sure on pressure's effect on reaction rate. Any pushes in the right direction would be great.
 
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Imagine having 1 mole of an ideal gas squeezed into 1 L volume. What is its concentration?

Apply twice the pressure. What is the volume now? What is the concentration now?
 
Ah, I see. The concentration of both would be 2M, so substituting would give me:

rate = 8k[A2]2][B2]

Thanks for the help!
 
absolutezer0es said:
Ah, I see. The concentration of both would be 2M, so substituting would give me:

rate = 8k[A2]2][B2]

Thanks for the help!

No! The rate has increased by a factor of 8 but it's still k[A2]2][B2] , just each of the things inside the brackets has doubled.
 
What do you mean by "it's"? The reaction rate doesn't increase by a factor of 8?
 
absolutezer0es said:
What do you mean by "it's"? The reaction rate doesn't increase by a factor of 8?

Yes I said the reaction rate increases 8X. "It's" means "it is". :oldsmile:

Consider [A2], [B2] to represent variables, k a constant.
 
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In other words, rate is in both cases k[A2]2[B2], but rate'=8*rate.
 

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