How does smell work on the atomic level?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the mechanisms of smell at the atomic and molecular level, exploring how different substances emit particles and how their physical properties, such as density, relate to olfactory perception. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects of smell, including evaporation rates and molecular interactions with receptors in the nose.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that substances radiate particles and that environmental factors, like wind, may influence the detection of these particles.
  • It is noted that all solids and liquids constantly evaporate material, with varying rates depending on their volatility and density, suggesting that denser materials generally evaporate less.
  • One participant highlights that the ability of the nose to detect specific molecules is a crucial factor in the perception of smell.
  • Another participant argues that while density and vapor pressure are related, the density of a material does not determine its smell, using helium and acetone as examples to illustrate this point.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the biology of smell involves the shapes of molecules and their compatibility with molecular receptors in the nose.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between density, evaporation rates, and smell, but there is disagreement regarding the role of density in determining smell, with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the relationship between density and smell, as well as the complexity of molecular interactions that are not fully resolved.

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Do substances radiate particles? Is it the wind brushing up the surface particles of the substance? Do dense materials usually have less smell?
 
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Daveman20 said:
Do substances radiate particles? Is it the wind brushing up the surface particles of the substance? Do dense materials usually have less smell?

All solids and liquids evaporate material constantly, yes, though the amount can vary by many orders of magnitude between a volatile liquid and a dense solid. And your intuition is correct, denser materials generally evaporate vapor at a smaller rate (ice cubes will disappear from your freezer in weeks, but a chunk of iron will stick around for a long, long, time). But the ability of the nose to detect specific molecules is another factor.
 
Mapes said:
All solids and liquids evaporate material constantly, yes, though the amount can vary by many orders of magnitude between a volatile liquid and a dense solid. And your intuition is correct, denser materials generally evaporate vapor at a smaller rate (ice cubes will disappear from your freezer in weeks, but a chunk of iron will stick around for a long, long, time). But the ability of the nose to detect specific molecules is another factor.

great response, thanks mapes!
 
The earlier post regarding density and vapor pressure is correct, however it is worth noting that the density of a material is completely unrelated to its "smell". Helium is less dense than air, but neither has any smell. On the other hand, pure acetone is several orders of magnitude more dense than any gas, yet it has a pungent smell.

On a molecular level, the biology of smell actually has to do with the shapes of molecules and how they "fit" (or fail to fit), in molecular receptors in your nose.
 

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