How does the current carrying capacity depends on thickness

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how the thickness of insulation on a conductor affects its current carrying capacity. Participants explore the physical effects of insulation on heat dissipation and the implications for wire performance, particularly in different environmental conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the heating effect in a wire carrying current is due to resistance, which is influenced by insulation.
  • There is a proposal that insulating a wire protects it from external temperatures and allows heat generated within the wire to dissipate, but this is contested.
  • One participant argues that if insulation thickness exceeds a critical radius, heat transfer to the surroundings decreases, potentially leading to increased wire temperature.
  • Another participant challenges the view that insulation allows heat to dissipate, stating that insulation actually restricts heat escape, which could lead to overheating.
  • It is noted that in cold climates, insulation on hot water pipes prevents heat loss, but this analogy is used to highlight potential negative effects on current-carrying wires.
  • One participant emphasizes that increased insulation can lead to higher temperatures in the wire, which may reduce its ability to carry current effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of insulation on heat dissipation and current capacity. There is no consensus on how insulation thickness impacts the wire's performance, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference concepts such as critical radius and heat transfer, but the discussion does not clarify the definitions or implications of these terms. The relationship between insulation thickness and current capacity is not fully resolved, with various assumptions and conditions presented.

Anshul J 2016
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How does the current carrying capacity depends on the thickness of insulation of conductor ?
 
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Anshul J 2016 said:
How does the current carrying capacity depends on the thickness of insulation of conductor ?

What physical thing happens to a wire carrying current ?

When you insulate that current carrying wire, what then happens to the wire ?

and if the insulation is even thicker ?

As a side hint ... think about why insulation is put around a hot water pipe in parts of countries with cold climates ... what does that insulation achieve ?Dave
 
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so what are your thoughts ?
can you think of some answers to those Q'sDave
 
First of all Thanks for those questions which are in turn helping me to ponder about the answer of my question..

My views on your questions asked are as -

1. Physical thing - Heating effect is produced in wire carrying current due to resistance..
2.When we insulate the wire, wire gets protected from outside temperature and heat generated inside the wire gets dissipated through insulation ( if insulation thickness is equal or less than critical radius.)
3. If insulation thickness is increases beyond the critical thickness than heat transfer decreases to surrounding.
4. In cold countries hot water pipes are insulated to prevent the loss of heat from water to outside where temperature is low and thus reducing the heat loss.
 
Anshul J 2016 said:
1. Physical thing - Heating effect is produced in wire carrying current due to resistance...

Yes
2.When we insulate the wire, wire gets protected from outside temperature and heat generated inside the wire gets dissipated through insulation ( if insulation thickness is equal or less than critical radius.)

no, you are looking at it the wrong way around ... if the wire has insulation on it, the heat can't escape as easily

3. If insulation thickness is increases beyond the critical thickness than heat transfer decreases to surrounding.

yes, but for any thickness

4. In cold countries hot water pipes are insulated to prevent the loss of heat from water to outside where temperature is low and thus reducing the heat loss.

yes, so you see how that is bad for a wire carrying current
the overall effect is ... The insulation will cause the wire to heat up more, and as the temperature of the wire increases,
it's ability to carry current decreases. All very significant in circumstances where high current is a factor

you might find this an interesting read ...
http://www.ieee802.org/3/poep_study/public/sep05/walling_2_0905.pdf

cheers
Dave
 

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